In the Geolocation work, one of the features that was discussed was an option 
that would
provide an indistinct location such as the town or the county or perhaps even 
only the country.
This adds fuzziness although not noise.  If you add noise then, in the location 
case, you could end
up with an incorrect location which may not be acceptable

All the best, Ashok

On 8/8/2012 3:07 PM, Robin Wilton wrote:
Hi Nikos,

I think that's a very interesting idea. Like you, I also think we probably underestimate 
the extent to which data minimisation and anonymisation techniques genuinely obscure 
personal data. And yet very often, they are the only answers to the question "What 
is 'Privacy By Design?'"...

It could be that introducing noise or fuzziness into personal data is another 
candidate. Certainly, current laws describing 'personal data' omit a lot of 
data types that can adversely affect privacy - so rather than wait for the law 
to redefine 'personal data', perhaps we should change the nature of the data as 
you suggest.

Yrs.,
Robin

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On 8 Aug 2012, at 22:48, Nikos Fotiou<[email protected]>  wrote:

Dear all,
This the first time I send something in this list, so I ask you
beforehand to excuse me if this mail is out of scope.

I was reading draft-iab-privacy-considerations-03.txt and I found it
very interesting. However I have the feeling that Section 5 does not
take into account the advances of the “private data analysis” research
field. To my understanding research efforts in this field argue that
data minimization and anonymization are not always enough, bringing as
an example the incidence of the AOL anonymized logs. What is proposed,
in order to protect users' privacy, is to lower the “data utility” by
adding “noise”.

IMHO a useful guideline for protocol designers would have been to
encourage them to design protocols that can tolerate a level of noise
(obscurity if you will) in the data provided by the users.

Best,
Nikos Fotiou

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Alissa Cooper<[email protected]>  wrote:
Feedback on this draft is welcome.

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Date: July 16, 2012 3:04:37 PM EDT
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Subject: New Version Notification for draft-iab-privacy-considerations-03.txt


A new version of I-D, draft-iab-privacy-considerations-03.txt
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Filename:      draft-iab-privacy-considerations
Revision:      03
Title:                 Privacy Considerations for Internet Protocols
Creation date:         2012-07-16
WG ID:                 Individual Submission
Number of pages: 36
URL:             
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-privacy-considerations-03.txt
Status:          
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-privacy-considerations
Htmlized:        http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iab-privacy-considerations-03
Diff:            
http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-iab-privacy-considerations-03

Abstract:
  This document offers guidance for developing privacy considerations
  for inclusion in IETF documents and aims to make protocol designers
  aware of privacy-related design choices.

  Discussion of this document is taking place on the IETF Privacy
  Discussion mailing list (see
  https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-privacy).




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