Alex van den Bogaerdt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 09:53:24AM +0000, Tony Finch wrote:
> 
>> However, I believe that in doubtful cases it's better to apply AI to the
>> complete message data than to attempt to analyse some abbreviated
>> notification. In most cases MTAs have enough capacity to do this: at the
>> moment (according to my stats) doubtful cases are about 30% of the email
>> that gets past blacklists.
> 
> The big difference seems to be what happens after you decide a
> message to be spam.
> 
> Present day: you delete it without notification or you send it "back",
> generating backscatter.
> 
> With TBR: you send a notification to the sender's domain. That server
> should NOT forward the bounce to an innocent victim. Instead, the domain
> could even count such bounces and be on guard about this customer.
> 
> Am I seeing this wrong?

   You're essentially correct, but the -00 spec does allow for the case
where you decide -- before fetching any part of the message -- that the
originator is not worth trusting, so you simply discard the URI silently.
Doug expects this to be frequent, if spammers actually use TBR. YMMV.

   This is a good opportunity to point out this _is_ a -00 spec. My
standards for a -00 spec may be higher than some (as Dave Crocker will
attest), but I'm sure it has some down-and-out errors, as well as areas
which could be improved by a WG-like process. Doug and I are certainly
open to that.

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John Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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