John C Klensin wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]

> I don't disagree with anything Ned said in his note, but
> want to reinforce the principle that trying to make too-fine
> distinctions in this area won't work in practice and may
> lead to even more confusion.

Clearly Hector and SM will speak up what they had in mind,
a 5xx *instead of* 354 (but then the 4xx is odd), or a 5xx
*after* 354 (as in the strawman example), or maybe both...

My assumption "after 354" differed from Ned's assumption,
unsurprisingly our conclusions also vary.  

I like Ned's RFC 2920 example, and knew that I should have
looked it up, but it is none of the RFCs I know "by number",
and I was lazy.  Where is Bruce when I need him to keep me
honest... :-)  

Your example is also nice, and if somebody posts a draft
with "retry clarifications" I hope that will also discuss
the PIPELINING fine print.

 Frank

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