I think it is important to the openness of the process to maintain the
tradition of a relatively light editorial hand on Informational RFCs
that document non-IETF protocols.  The minimal substantive part of
this review increasingly seems to be done by the IESG instead of the
RFC Editor.

From:  Gordon Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>OK Paul, lets give you the benefit of the doubt and say that your 
>assertions below are absolutely right.  Please explain then why it 
>should become an informational RFC without having the comments of the 
>RAB members attached to it? (Even though as Patrick said it is not 
>common practice to do this with an informational rfc). ....

Although extremely brief RFC-Editor/IESG comments (as in one or two
sentences) are sometimes included in a non-IETF Informational RFC, I
know of no case in which some third party's general comments have been
included.  Such third parties can write up their comments as a
separate Informational document and submit it to the RFC Editor for
publication if they want.

>Is it really the position of the IESG that they have NO obligation to 
>do anything to inform the unwary that this protocol is an invitation 
>for lawsuits against NSI, against ICANN, and possibly against the 
>IETF on the grounds that the RFC publication was perceived by the 
>clueless party  as an endorsement?

To the extent that the IESG undertook to do a detailed quality review
of non-IETF Informational RFC protocols and includes the results of
such a review in the RFC, it would thereby assume legal liability.
The way to avoid such liability is maintain as minimal a review as
possible.

> ....

Donald
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