At the minimum, such violations of IETF Standards should be formally noted in a letter from the IAB to the offending vendor, whoever that might be, when such information becomes available to the IESG or the IAB.
Among other things, such notices would result in a formally recorded track record for the offending vendor, which should be made public by CC to the IETF mailing list, as these are public standards, which are of public interest and public record. This assumes that the IESG or IAB care about such violations, in the interests of promoting vendor conformance with their standards. Of course, if no one cares, then no one cares, though one might become curious about what the IETF does care about;-)... >I am not suggesting that the IETF should mount a conformance police >force! but it should offer more than a simple shrug of their >shoulders, such as "ok. i give. why?". PS: I apologize profusely to Dave and everyone else for violating my own rule against use of the Eudora Redirect Command, which always results in confusion when used as I did...\s At 08:53 -0500 22/01/02, David Farber wrote: From: Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (by way of Einar Stefferud) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IP: Microsoft breaks Mime specification Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:40:41 +0100 > This needs to be given some attention in the IETF...\Stef ok. i give. why? there are only a few thousand of us, far too few to fix microsoft's bugs. and we don't have the source anyway.