--On Sunday, March 17, 2002 02:04 PM -0800 Bonney Kooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> support that. I suggest let IETF institute a tiered
> corporate membership program like all other standards
> forums (organizations do pay huge fees for WAP forums
> and MPLS forums etc.). Let us have $20 K per year for

The difference is that the IETF is not an organization-membership-based 
entity but rather an individual-member-based organization. Your proposal 
would alter the basis of membership for the IETF and would encourage the 
very behaviour you claim is happening now and wish to prevent:  the 
excessive influence of large corporations on Internet Standards.

Once you turn IETF into a corporate-membership-based organization (whether 
explicitly by membership dues or implicitly by an official sliding scale 
paid by the corporation), the bias of attention and service shifts from the 
individual to the corporation.

I decided to sit in on the Newcomers Orientation Sunday where one could 
learn:
1. that we don't use voting to determine standards to avoid the effect of 
anyone packing working group meetings with voters,
2. how all the different documents fit together as part of the process, how 
they are produced and reviewed primarily outside of meetings, and
3. the lengthy and tortuous path a proposal must take to become a standard, 
of which the working group meetings are only a small part.

The system has been rigged to avoid excessive influence from any one 
organization. Maybe it's not always perfect, but you can be assured that 
trying to fix or avoid it by tinkering with registration fees will be 
futile no matter what structure you set.

As others have pointed out, the registration fee is a rather small minority 
of total direct and indirect attendance costs, so protesting it on economic 
grounds doesn't seem to be a very strong issue. If your real issue is with 
perceived large corporate influence, that should be addressed by 
organizational and operational changes, not fee structures.

--
Dennis Fazio
HeatSeeker Technology Partners

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