--On Sunday, 29 July, 2007 14:40 -0400 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I didn't said that operating a meeting outside US is cheaper > than in US. I said that the cost for *participants* is lower. Jordi, Let me add one comment to Joel's discussion, with which I agree. We've had a long-standing system by which the Secretariat (and IASA, I presume) try to hold meeting registration fees stable over some reasonable period of time. So while, as Joel points out, the fee for a given meeting reflects general IETF overhead as well as actual meeting costs, the latter are averaged over a year or so. If one increases average meeting costs _to the IETF_ by using more facilities that require separately paying for conference center space (the norm outside the US and parts of Canada), that will eventually translate into higher registration fees, which are a cost to participants. Your logic seems to assume that meeting costs do not vary with facilities, but that is true only because of the averaging: I think it is safe to estimate that, if we met in a larger proportion of facilities that required rental of external meeting space (often with associated problematic restrictions), registration fees would go up, possibly significantly. It is my personal belief that we are near the upper limit on registration fees, at least without spreading Secretariat and other overhead expenses out to the entire range of IETF participants, not just those who attend meetings. I note that we are now at USD 1800/year and rising, a level that starts to approach the costs of ITU-T Sector Membership and participation fees for a number of other bodies that we have periodically accused of being less open than we are by virtue of their fee structures. Trying to spread things out of course involves opening other cans of worms, some of them quite large and complex. john _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf