Yes.

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Eric Gray
Principal Engineer
Ericsson  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John C Klensin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:00 PM
> To: Eric Gray; Simon Josefsson; Andrew Sullivan
> Cc: ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: Removal of IETF patent disclosures?
> Importance: High
> 
> 
> 
> --On Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:30 AM -0500 Eric Gray 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > John,
> >
> >     What you said is all true, but obviously it has nothing
> > to do with what you responded to.  I said (in effect) that -
> > if one set of lawyers contact another set of lawyers, we may
> > have to take some action and we should have the mechanisms in
> > place to allow that.
> 
> We don't want to encourage anyone who decides that an IPR claim 
> or rights/licensing summary is inappropriate and should be taken 
> down to go looking for an IETF lawyer, do we?   The denial of 
> service --or the accumulation of costs (in some form) to the 
> IETF -- occurs the moment that call or letter is received.  I 
> don't think we want to design mechanisms that make that easy for 
> the person requesting the removal.  The "wait for a court order 
> or equivalent" suggestion was an attempt to raise the bar and 
> make sure that the entity requesting the removal was both real 
> and very serious (just finding someone claiming to be a lawyer 
> to make a call does not require either).
> 
> And that was my point, which seems exactly in line with your 
> comment.
> 
>      john
> 
> 
> 
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