On Thursday 12 February 2009 14:39:53 ext Jari Arkko, you wrote: > I support experiments in this space, though. And it would be really good > to get more of the open source folk participate in IETF specification > work. There are many important open source extensions and protocols that > fit in IETF's scope but were never documented. Even if source code is > freely available, you could have several implementations, commercial vs. > open source interoperability issues, etc.
I was an open-source developper before, becoming a Nokia employee and sponsored IETF attendee (and I remain one). I was in a software field where IETF has high relevance (e.g. Teredo and RTSP). But there was no way in the world I could have afforded the travel, accomodation and attendance costs. Oh, I was one relevant working group mailing lists. But from my experience, I was not at all taken seriously, until I started showing up at the meetings. In other words, remote participation does _not_ really work, in this venue, and on-site participation is often not possible. Also, open-source is heavily dependent on running code (as are some standardization venues such as XSF). IETF is not, or not anymore, although I guess this varies from WG to WG. And IETF is very slow compared to the open- source community. All in all, I am not surprising that the IETF process is not so popular with open-source projects, and I am doubtful we can "fix" that without more disruptive changes that current IETFers and their sponsors, would be willing to accept. -- Rémi Denis-Courmont Maemo Software, Nokia Devices R&D _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
