There's a difference, however, between ticking a box and having
individual user-attributable credentials. The two techniques are
focused on different goals, generically binding users to an AUP,
without caring who they are, versus being able to identify individual
users on the network (with more detail than a MAC address).
The proposal here is the latter, which would seem to raise the
question of why individual user attribution is necessary, i.e., why
anonymity in the IETF network unacceptable -- even within the pool of
IETF participants.
BTW, the trend cited here of more networks requiring more
authentication also goes the other way:
<http://www.starbucks.com/blog/22761/free-one-click-wi-fi-is-coming>
On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Dave CROCKER wrote:
On 7/1/2010 8:26 AM, Fred Baker wrote:
While it is new in IETF meetings, it is far from unusual in WiFi
networks to
find some form of authentication. This happens at coffee shops,
college
campuses, corporate campuses, and people's apartments. I think I
would need
some more data before I concluded this was unreasonable.
+1
Small towns often have an environment that makes it reasonable to
leave one's doors unlocked. Large cities rarely do. The IETF is
now part of a very big city. Restricting wifi access to authorized
personnel has become not only the norm, but the expected and often
the required.
Small added note about physical security:
As SM noted, we don't have monitors at the meeting room doors. Even
with them, meeting attendance includes many local folk. Once upon a
time, IETF meetings constituted an extremely collegial environment
among folks who knew each other. Today, attendance is much more
diverse.
One aspect of the diversity is that we need to treat meetings rooms
as fully public places, with the attendant risks. The risk is not
terrible, but it /is/ real.
There have been thefts in these rooms, in multiple meeting cities,
where property was stolen rather boldly, such as from underneath the
seat of an attendee.
We need to watch our personal property as if the person sitting next
to us, or behind us, might steal it.
Because some of them have.
d/
--
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net
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