On Jul 17, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Dave CROCKER wrote:

> Folks,
> 
> Nomcom has been an integral part of the IETF for nearly 20 years.
> 
> A number of us have been developing a set of recommendations designed to 
> adapt the Nomcom process to better match current realities of the IETF 
> community.  The draft has progressed far enough to call for public 
> consideration.
> 
> Some of the proposal's recommendations require no changes in formal rules.  
> They
> can be adopted immediately, possibly by the current Nomcom, should it so 
> choose.
> Others require a formal development and approval cycle.
> 
> At:
> 
>     <http://www.bbiw.net/recent.html#nomcom2010>
> 
> there is a copy of the Full Proposal, and a Summary which primarily contains 
> just the recommendations.
> 
> ......
> Please feel free to discuss the proposal with any of the authors or folks 
> listed
> in the Acknowledgments section, or on this list.

I read the summary version of it: seems to me a timely effort in improving our 
process.  it'd be great if we could do this for next nomcom:)

One comment, then one new suggestion for you to consider.

The comment: I support the idea of having a second 'expertise' pool of 
volunteers, but I wonder where comes this suggestion of selecting *3* members 
from this pool.  A few random questions:

- Do we know what is this number for the last several NOMCOMs?

- Assuming ISOC keeps the records of NOMCOM volunteers over time: what 
percentage of volunteers that would fall into this second pool?

- Did this number "3" come from a rough expectation on how many NOMCOM members 
should have this "direct involvement in the process of IETF leadership 
(IAB/IESG/WG chair)?
e.g. say you expect total 5 people with experience, you pick 3 from 2nd pool 
first, then expect 2 more from the bigger pool ...

Personally I feel (1) there should be a expected low threshold of NOMCOM member 
with this direct IETF leadership experience, and (2)this threshold should be 
higher than 3.

Now the suggestion: Since some of the suggested enhancements would require 
modifications to 3777, I'd like to bring up another thought I've had for a long 
time: the current NOMCOM eligibility requirement (3 of the last 5 IETF 
meetings) seems a bit low, I feel that a longer experience with IETF process 
than 2 years (as minimum) requirement could help NOMCOM's decision process, as 
IETF is already over 24 years old now with a pretty long and rich history.

Take into account the fact that many people probably do not attend all IETF 
meetings, as a strawman for a longer IETF experience, what about attending 5 of 
the last 8 or 10 meetings?

that's all for now, and thanks to all for doing this important work!

Lixia

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