Hi, I'm only going to comment on the suggested changes to the BCP. The other recommendations all seem to be reasonable additions to the general guidance for future Nomcoms.
> RECOMMENDATION -- Selective Exclusion > > * The Nomcom Chair may selectively exclude any participant from a single > Nomcom activity. This action may be overridden by a majority of Nomcom Voting > Members. In my own (limited) Nomcom experience I didn't see a case where this would be relevant. In fact, it seems more likely that an individual would tend to dominate *all* discussions, and this rule doesn't allow for exclusion of a member from all activity. However, I guess it does allow for handling a case of clear prejudice for or against a particular candidate. I would suggest building in a bit more check-and-balance by making it * The Nomcom Chair may, after consulting with the previous Nomcom Chair, selectively exclude... > RECOMMENDATION -- Selection Pool > > * There needs to be assurance of a minimum presence of Nomcom voting > members who have meaningful knowledge of IETF "decision and leadership > processes". > * Therefore, create a second pool of volunteers who satisfy more > stringent Nomcom participation rules. > * Volunteers in this 'expertise' pool must have been on the IESG, IAB or > IAOC/Trust, or have been a working group chair. These positions require a > degree of direct involvement in the process of IETF leadership. > * Three (3) volunteers from the 'expertise' pool are selected first. > Those who are not selected from that pool are then added to the general pool > of volunteers, for the second round of selection. Nomcom is not limited to > having only three of its members be experienced. > * (Implementation) This is a formal change to Nomcom selection rules, > which will require a modification to RFC 3777. I wouldn't seriously object to this proposal, but it doesn't help with a related fundamental problem that we have: asking engineers to select other engineers for managerial (IESG), strategic (IAB) and business/legal (IAOC/Trust) jobs. The problem with putting engineers in such positions is that they tend to do engineering, sometimes known as micro-management. Quite what we can do about this I don't know, but including three engineers in Nomcom who have personal experience of micro-managing isn't going to fix it ;-). > RECOMMENDATION -- Confidentiality Agreement > > * Everyone participating in Nomcom needs to sign a formal Confidentiality > Agreement. Good idea. > RECOMMENDATION -- Interview Monitoring > > * Liaisons must not sit in on interviews without a specific invitation.... I do agree that the liaisons have no place in the interview process, but I found this section confusing as to exactly what is proposed as a change to the BCP. Regards Brian Carpenter _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
