On Aug 2, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: > > On Aug 2, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Spencer Dawkins wrote: > >>>> In the case of the 2 BarBOFS I organized at IETF-78, in both cases >>>> there were very useful contributions made by people I didn't know and >>>> therefore wouldn't have invited. Even if the efforts fail (and one of >>>> them was DOA and will not move forward), I am glad to have had the >>>> opportunity to get to know more people in an area of interest to me. >>> >>> And that is why I think that these meetings would have been better served >>> if presented as a presentation, rather than a bar BoF. >>> >>> Suppose we had a list of "non-WG presentations" with a listing like this >>> >>> Title: Tunneling IPSec over HTTP using XML >>> Presenter: Marshall Eubanks >>> Draft: draft-eubanks-ipsec-bloated-transport >>> Abstract: >>> For years now http has not enjoyed the benefits of XML. We are now about >>> to change all that. No longer will IPsec be constrained to efficient >>> formats. >> >> I think it's brilliant for us to talk about "poster sessions", or "lightning >> talks", at IETF meetings, but we should definitely not confuse that with >> "having a bar BOF" in this context... > > I agree. My point is that a lot of the things listed as bar BoFs are in fact > lightning talks. Take them away to their own list, and the true bar BoFs will > not need to be listed on the wiki, and won't need conference rooms either.
In keeping with IETF traditions, I'm putting some XML where my mouth is. Here's a -00 draft about this. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-nir-non-wg-presentations-00.txt _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
