On 8/28/10 10:29 AM, Mary Barnes wrote: > So, if all you guys (and it's been all guys from what I've seen) would > just consider how you would feel if you either had access to very > little food (think 4 days without a real meal and subsisting on > illegally imported nuts and dried fruit for 4 days) or if your > wife/daughters/girlfriends were having to travel alone on a train > late at night or navigate a city they don't know alone at nite, then > perhaps you'll have a modicum of insight into some of these concerns. > [BTW, the information on safety on the host site were certainly not > relevant to my personal concerns].
The incidence of rape in the netherlands is about 1/3 that of the city in which you normally live in, the homocide rate is 1/15. certain kinds of property crime are known to be pretty high. By most measures of personal well-being the netherlands is one of the safest countries in the world. You stood at least an order of magnitude higher probability of being accosted or assulted on the street when we were situated in the tenderlion in san franciso, so either you're a fairly bad judge of relative risk (most humans are) or the unfamilar has produced uncessary concerns. > As I said in prior posts, I think Maastricht would be a lovely city > for a vacation/holiday, but it is a very poor choice for a business > meeting. And, actually the scattered nature of the hotels made if far > more difficult to interact with IETF friends than it is when the > hotels are all close to the venue and there are fewer choices. > > Regards, > Mary. > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) > <hannes.tschofe...@nsn.com> wrote: >> Hi Jordi, >> Hi all, >> >> I have not seen an IETF meeting where people have not complained about >> the layout of the venue, how to get there, the city itself, the >> proximity to some nearby countries, the weather, the hotel, the number >> of offered hotels, the high crime rate, etc. etc. >> >> The place that makes 95% of the typical IETF meetings participants happy >> does not even exist. >> >> Maybe it would be useful to highlight the positive aspects of traveling >> instead. Maastricht is an interesting city and you saw lots of your IETF >> friends again. >> >> Ciao >> Hannes >> _______________________________________________ >> Ietf mailing list >> Ietf@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >> > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
