+4 and rotfl

   Brian

On 2011-09-16 17:17, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
> I thought the counting of votes was finished on this topic but people seem to 
> keep emailing their support/lack-of, so naturally I will be a good lemming 
> and do the same.
> 
> 1) I am in favor of the two-maturity-levels draft and change.  I have 
> consulted a textbook on Euclidean geometry and determined that the distance 
> from level 2 to 1 is shorter than 3 to 1, getting us closer to the actual 
> location most of us are at (which is of course 1 maturity level).  
> 
> 2) I am strongly opposed to draft-loughney-newtrk-one-size-fits-all-01, 
> because it is far too rational and sane, and would prevent this topic from 
> continuing forever.  Furthermore, I am against any move to 1 maturity level 
> because apparently there are one or two people with so much free time or 
> posterity they actually bother moving PS to higher levels these days, and who 
> are we to squash their hobby/passion/disorder?  (In fact, I was almost going 
> to suggest we go to a 4 or 5 maturity level process just to give these people 
> more harmless things to do, but I digress...)
> 
> 3) The IESG should be applauded/thanked for recognizing there is only one 
> maturity level (PS), and taking the steps necessary to treat potential RFCs 
> as such from a quality perspective.  But they should be denigrated for not 
> telling us they did that.  So they come out even.
> 
> 4) Regarding the discussion in this thread about what types of comments 
> should be counted or not: I believe we should produce a new RFC concerning 
> what response phrases in emails are going to be counted or not for consensus 
> counting, so that we may know what to say in the future to get our votes 
> counted.  (Of course the big question everyone wants to know is when will 
> such a new RFC reach the second maturity level?)
> 
> -hadriel
> 
> p.s. in all seriousness, I'm in favor of this two-maturiy-level draft.  I do 
> not think it is "change for change's sake", but rather a change attempting to 
> accommodate differing viewpoints of our present location and where we want to 
> be.  If it fails to change the status-quo of 1 level, that's *OK*, we can try 
> again - the Internet won't collapse because of this document, and neither 
> will the IETF.
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