On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Feb 24, 2012, at 4:54 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > >>> "Proposals for new HTTP authentication schemes are in scope." >> >> How would a plan like the following look to folks: >> >> - httpbis is chartered to include auth mechanism work as >> per the above (or whatever text goes into the charter)
<snip/> >> >> Might that be a way forward that'll give enough folks >> enough of what they want/need? > > > It would, but I would like to give a counter-proposal that I think will use > people's different talents better: > > - new wg on developing http authentication mechanisms is chartered soon (BoF > in Paris); call it the ham wg > - httpbis is chartered to follow the work of the ham wg and is required to > make sure that the authentication framework in http 2.0 works for as many of > the proposals from the ham wg as possible > - ham wg is responsible for most of what you list above > - http2.0 document says "the mandatory to implement auth mechanisms are named > in that RFC over there", which comes from the ham wg > > There will be overlap in wg membership, but not nearly as much as would be > needed for your proposal. I like the idea, but there is always the danger of the HAM working group either getting stuck with multiple non-interoperable proposals like we've seen at IPsecME with the PAKE work. There is also the possibility of getting stuck with conflicting requirements. For example, there will be a need to use existing user databases (RADIUS/DIAMETER servers, LDAP directories), but that is hard to reconcile with the preference for ZKPs. I'm not really worried, because HTTP/2.0 is bound to take a long time, and there will be plenty of opportunity for chair and ADs to step in and intervene if the wg actually does that. On a more technical note, we are 12 days past the cutoff date for new BoF session requests, so it's probably too late for a BoF in Paris. Yoav _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf