> 
> By way of testing whether I understand your text, here is a re-coding, meant 
> to be simplistic and procedural:
> 
>   1. The body (and/or the controlling documents for the body) defines its 
> slots (positions).  Nomcom fills the slots.
> 
>   2. The body offers its view of the requirements for these positions, but 
> these are merely advisory to the work of Nomcom
> 
>   3. The community comments on the requirements for positions.
> 
>   4. Nomcom makes its own decision about the criteria it will use for 
> selecting nominees; as such, it really is defining the /actual/ requirements 
> for positions.

Agreed.

> 
> 
> The task I think I agreed to, on Monday, was to formulate language changes to 
> RFC 3777, to make this more clear.
> 
> Herewith:
> 
>>   7. Unless otherwise specified, the advice and consent model is used
> ...
>>      2. The nominating committee selects candidates based on its
>>         understanding of the IETF community's consensus of the
>>         qualifications required and advises each confirming body of its
>>         respective candidates.
> 
> In practical terms, Nomcom is not in a position to conduct an actual (formal) 
> community-wide consensus process.  It can solicit comments and it can gauge 
> those comments.  But to characterize this sequence as an "understanding of 
> the IETF community's consensus" is unrealistic and counterproductive, in my 
> view.
> 
> So I suggest:
> 
>      2. The nominating committee selects candidates based on its
>         determination of the requirements for the job, synthesized
>         from the desires expressed by the IAB, IESG or IAOC (as
>         appropriate), desires express by the community, and from the
>         nominating committee's own assessment; it then advises each
>         confirming body of its respective candidates; the nominating
>         committee shall provide supporting materials that cover its
>         selections, including the final version of requirements that
>         the nominating committee used when making its selections;
>         these requirements shall be made public after nominees are
>         confirmed.

I'm fine with that.

jari

> 
> 
> Comments?
> 
> d/
> -- 
> Dave Crocker
> Brandenburg InternetWorking
> bbiw.net

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