> > By way of testing whether I understand your text, here is a re-coding, meant > to be simplistic and procedural: > > 1. The body (and/or the controlling documents for the body) defines its > slots (positions). Nomcom fills the slots. > > 2. The body offers its view of the requirements for these positions, but > these are merely advisory to the work of Nomcom > > 3. The community comments on the requirements for positions. > > 4. Nomcom makes its own decision about the criteria it will use for > selecting nominees; as such, it really is defining the /actual/ requirements > for positions.
Agreed. > > > The task I think I agreed to, on Monday, was to formulate language changes to > RFC 3777, to make this more clear. > > Herewith: > >> 7. Unless otherwise specified, the advice and consent model is used > ... >> 2. The nominating committee selects candidates based on its >> understanding of the IETF community's consensus of the >> qualifications required and advises each confirming body of its >> respective candidates. > > In practical terms, Nomcom is not in a position to conduct an actual (formal) > community-wide consensus process. It can solicit comments and it can gauge > those comments. But to characterize this sequence as an "understanding of > the IETF community's consensus" is unrealistic and counterproductive, in my > view. > > So I suggest: > > 2. The nominating committee selects candidates based on its > determination of the requirements for the job, synthesized > from the desires expressed by the IAB, IESG or IAOC (as > appropriate), desires express by the community, and from the > nominating committee's own assessment; it then advises each > confirming body of its respective candidates; the nominating > committee shall provide supporting materials that cover its > selections, including the final version of requirements that > the nominating committee used when making its selections; > these requirements shall be made public after nominees are > confirmed. I'm fine with that. jari > > > Comments? > > d/ > -- > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net