On Aug 5, 2013, at 5:26 AM, SM <s...@resistor.net> wrote: > At 13:10 04-08-2013, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: >> You have the agenda and drafts 2 weeks in advance. The slides aren't >> normative. Even > > I do not have the agenda two weeks in advance.
Huh. Sounds like a WG Chair problem. I believe draft agendas are due 2 weeks in advance, and final agendas due 1 week in advance. Or at least that was the excuse I was given when I've been denied requests to add stuff to WG agendas on previous occasions - the Chairs told me I was asking too late. (as they should have) > What is the meaning of "normative" in the above? I was trying to be cute by using the term from our drafts/RFCs, as in normative references vs. informative, or the document's RFC2119-type text is normative while examples are informative. I meant the slides are just helpful guides, like pictorial examples, vs. the draft itself which is the real proposal. I guess the joke flopped. :( > Some of the Jabber scribes are not able to tell me who are at the microphone > when I ask them. If it was my decision to make (and it is not), the Jabber > scribe would be allowed to comment at the microphone even after the > microphone line is capped. A person can always argue that it is an arbitrary > decision. :-) Again, this sounds like a WG Chair problem. If you find that happening, send a private email to that working group's Chair(s) reminding them of the jabber folks. And if they ignore you, then send a private email to the Area Director(s). WG Chairs and ADs are generally decent human beings, at least in private. ;) > As an off-topic comment, it's not because the Meetecho people are nice that > one should expect them to act as Jabber scribes. I don't expect Meetecho people to jabber scribe. I expect other folks in the room to volunteer. It's a heck of a lot easier/better than being the minute taker. That's why I volunteer for being a scribe - to avoid being a minute taker. :) -hadriel