On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Ted Lemon <ted.le...@nominum.com> wrote:
> But the most rude behavior that ever occurs on IETF mailing lists is not > listening. Not trying to understand what the person who is speaking to > you has said. Not trying to figure out if what they said meaningfully > contradicts your own position, and not making a sincere effort to determine > if they might be correct in contradicting your position. > > We have seen some incredible rudeness of this type in the recent spfbis > discussion, with various supposedly smart people in our community utterly > ignoring what their opponents are saying, and simply re-asserting their own > position in a variety of ways. > > I would expect the sergeant-at-arms to be reining in that sort of rudeness > before reining in the sort of supposed overt rudeness that we are > discussing here. The endless litany of repeats of already-addressed > discussion points raised on the spfbis mailing list has been incredibly > harmful to discourse on the ietf mailing list. IMHO that's not a job for the sergeant at arms. The SAA is responsible for how things are said. The shepherd -- or supershepherd or whatever -- would be responsible for the substance.
