On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I disagree.  DNSSEC is not just DNS: its the only available, deployed, and 
>> (mostly) accessible global PKI currently in existence which also includes a 
>> constrained path of trust which follows already established business 
>> relationships.
> 
> Except that virtually nobody uses DNSSEC and most of the registrars don't 
> support it.

I strongly disagree:

I had an easier time registering my DNSSEC test domain's DS records with the 
registrar than the nameservers themselves, using an obnoxious company that 
sponsors a NASCAR driver and has obnoxious TV ads.

Comcast and Google Public DNS both validate DNSSEC on all requests.

A small minority of clients can't fetch DNSSEC records, but most actually can, 
either through one of the recursive resolvers or over the Internet.

> And then there is that other PKI that is actually used to support a trillion 
> odd dollars worth of global e-commerce per year.

Which the NSA is man-in-the-middling with abandon, in due to no-small-part the 
lack of a constrained path of trust.  Google has effectively given up on the 
TLS PKI for their own use in Chrome: they hardcode the Google sub-CA.

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