The problem is not what actually each person said but what "they" say it was said and gets recorded into a statement that has no weight and it is not representative of the entire community.
-Jorge > On Oct 12, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie> > wrote: > > > Hiya, > >> On 10/12/2013 01:02 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: >> >> The thing is that I (and I suspect much of the IETF) feel that such I* >> leadership attendees need to make it _very_ clear at such events that they >> are >> there to present (as best they can) the views of the IETF as a whole, but >> they >> cannot _commit_ the IETF to anything: only the IETF acting as a whole can do >> that. > > So fwiw I was there as Jari's sidekick-de-jour and I can confirm > that both Jari and Russ repeatedly made it clear that anything > substantive needed IETF community consensus. I realise that's not > as good as a recording or set of minutes, but there ya go. > > Cheers, > S.
