There is an important difference between policy and politics. Promoting a politics discussion within the IETF arena will become the demise of the IETF.
-J On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Arturo Servin <arturo.ser...@gmail.com>wrote: > > It is clear to me that the IETF cannot be away from Internet > Governance > discussions. Yes, it is politics and we do not like politics, but that > is the way the Internet is these days. > > It is also appears that we do not have consensus of how to > participate > and what to say in those discussions (I do not mind the way it is today > but it seems that some folk -and I understand them- prefer other ways). > > Inevitably, as John said we are in times of change and we need to > figure out how to interact with other Internet ecosystem organizations, > we like or not. > > By means of our current bodies (IAB, IESG), individual submissions > or > working groups we need to find a way to what say, where, and how. > > Regards, > as > > > On 10/11/13 5:29 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > Hi John, > > > > On 12/10/2013 05:02, John Curran wrote: > > ... > >> In my personal view, it is a very important for the IETF to select > leadership who can > >> participate in any discussions that occur, > > > > Without obsessing about the word "leadership", but following up on a > comment > > made by Noel Chiappa on the "leader statements" thread, I think we have > > to recognise that nothing in the NomCom process, the IAB Charter, or > > the IESG Charter, would cause us to select IAB or IETF Chairs who are > > particularly suited to this role. > > > > In fact I think that the plan of record is to leave such matters to > > ISOC. > > > > Reality is different - the outside world expects to hear from us. > > > > Brian > > >
