On 2009-08-15, at 00:31, Abdulaziz Ghuloum wrote:
(and this should be in a GUI version as well).
Future work.
Agreed. GUI versions are for builders of IDEs (which I personally
would never use); I just want to make sure that we expose all the
functionality in a way that is usable to IDE builders.
2. The library manager should be bundled with the Scheme system, so
that users don't have to do anything to get it going. The bundle
should include programs such as wget, curl, bazaar, and/or git,
whatever is needed to make everything work.
No. The library manager is a separate entity that's independent of
any Scheme implementation. You only need one library manager to
use. If each of Ikarus, Larceny, PLT, Ypsilon, IronScheme, Mosh,
etc. installs all the tools, it would be a mess.
After reading this, I realized what I wanted is really to encourage
downstream packagers to create metapackages that include the Scheme
system and the library manager. The point is to make it possible to
use a package manager to get a 1-click install of everything a person
needs to be using Scheme productively. But that is out of scope of the
library manager itself, I agree.
Windows (`Deficient By Design' (TM)) is another matter. But that just
means that a Windows package simply has everything the user needs, and
installing multiple Scheme systems does mean maybe installing multiple
copies of curl. That's hardly new in the Windows world.
<versioning>
I agree in principle. It is, however, a horrible issue that's
intrinsic to software itself. We should either go with something
and live with the consequences, or ignore versioning completely for
now and make it future work. Ignoring it for the time being may not
be the worst thing, since we have only a few libraries and all of
them are being actively developed. So, we can just say "give me the
latest xitomatl" and it should work for the time being.
Agreed.
-- v
