On 17-Aug-07, at 1:16 PM, Anupam Jain wrote: > *could* try to hammer into his head why package management is a > much better > option than installers but instead I just introduced him to synaptic..
synaptic is the same as apt-get - no problem using it. Until it doesnt work for some reason ... > I > could teach him VIM but I'd rather tell him to use gedit.. I could > ask him > to download using wget but I'd rather say "drag drop the link into > the kget > icon".. It's the only way we can all get along amicably.. i have a newbie friend who is in coimbatore and I have to sit in chennai and debug things over the phone. The trouble with GUI is that it is useless when it comes to debugging a problem. He knows to open a console, to su to root - all other commands, i spell out the command and ask him to press enter when done. Editing, still no problem - i make him cd to the relevant directory and type kwrite on the prompt and press enter. He uses kwrite to edit and save, exits and he is back on the command prompt. So no need to teach him vi or vim or emacs. In the instant case he was sharing files between two machines using the gui to set up sharing over ssh and konqueror to do the copying etc. But it stopped working - and all the gui could say was 'unable to connect'. In these cases, one has to do ping, ssh from the console, look at logs ... one thing i can say for him, he records all the sessions on the console, saves everything and learns quite a lot. If everything works - nothing like gui. But everything doesnt just work, and a guy who is unable to try some CLI stuff to debug might as well go back to doze where everything either works or you live with what doesnt work. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ _______________________________________________ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
