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Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 12:20:49 +0530
From: Manish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ilugd] M$ Tax Refund Quest
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On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Raj Mathur wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 May 2008, Manish wrote:
> > [snip]
>
> > It's not Microsoft who is supposed to refund but the reseller (as I
> > understand from the license.) Besides the license asks to contact
> > the "manufacturer or installer", if you do not agree to the license,
> > "to determine their return policy for a refund or credit". And then
> > they tell you that the policy is to not refund. How contrivedly
> > convenient.
>
> Ah, then you're very much within your rights to get a refund or credit.
> After all, they can't blame you for following the instructions on the
> licence itself!
I certainly hope so.
> As a multitude of other people on this list have pointed out, the
> consumer courts are probably the best place to take this issue to.
> However, I'd let the vendor know that I was planning to approach the
> consumer court beforehand, to give them a chance to be
> gentlemen/gentlewomen/gentlepersons-of-indeterminate-gender, play nice
> and refund the money before their name gets dragged in the mud.
I have just been told not to waste their and my time about pursuing
this further with them since "The management have made the decision,
and we are not refunding you for the Operating System. This decision
is final."
I have told them that I intend to take this issue to Indian consumer
court and have also requested them to share their Indian
correspondence address so that a legal notice can be served on them.
> On a side note, if this becomes common I wonder what changes MS is going
> to make in their licence? :) Will they remove the ``if you do not
> agree'' section altogether? Or are they required by law to keep it
> there?
None whatsoever. I suspect the clause exists because of US law and
not because Indian law requires it which is why they sound so
confident about brushing it off. Hence my repeated suspicion if it is
binding under Indian law. Guess there's only one way to find out.
> IANAL, TINLA.
Ack.
-- Manish
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Manish/ List
Under the Consumer protection act, action can be initiated against such bundling
for the benefit of all,
[As per section 2 (c) (i)
"complaint" means any allegation in writing made by a complainant that—
an unfair trade practice or a restrictive trade practice has been adopted by
any trader or service provider;
and as per section 2(nnn)Restrictive Trade practice is
(nnn) “restrictive trade practice” means a trade practice which tends
to bring about manipulation of price or conditions of delivery or to affect
flow of supplies in the market relating to goods or services in such a manner
as to impose on the consumers unjustified costs or restrictions and shall
include—
(a) delay beyond the
period agreed to by a trader in supply of such goods or in providing the
services which has led or is likely to lead to rise in the price;
(b) any trade practice which requires a consumer
to buy, hire or avail of any goods or, as the case may be, services as
condition precedent to buying, hiring or availing of other goods or services;]
Therefore action under consumer protection act be initiated. No lawyer is
needed in contesting the case, so you can choose the forum where you wish to
initiate proceedings.
Civil Courts and as also said by Sudev, you can alternatively go before the
Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Commission with your complaint.
Kamal Dave
Advocate
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