Many thanks Simon, Clark and Jim for all the info - it thus seems  
that Ruby ain't broke, so I won't fix her.
Cheers - peter


On 18 Dec 2008, at 20:21, Jim Scott wrote:

>
>
> On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Clark Martin wrote:
>
>>
>> Peter Mc Court wrote:
>>> Learned ones,
>>>
>>> I just rescued a Ruby iMac (G3, 400MHz, 36GB HD, CD drive, 256MB  
>>> RAM,
>>> OS9.2.1, Firmware 4.1.9) from the Uni skip. She (Ruby) is fully
>>> functional, except that I need to use the power button on the box to
>>> start her up.
>>>
>>> None of the keyboard power buttons for my other 3 iMacs (similar
>>> vintage) can start Ruby up, but they all can shut her down.
>>>
>>> I see that Ruby's power button is sits more deeply in the bezel
>>> than on
>>> the other iMacs, so I guess she has been subject to some abuse. Is
>>> there
>>> an easy fix for this power button issue? I've read that one should
>>> avoid
>>> using the power button that sits on the iMac box.
>>
>> Don't believe everything you read (except this :).  There is nothing
>> wrong with using the button on the computer to power the computer up.
>> It is not recommended to use it to turn the computer off, you should
>> use
>> a controlled shut down instead.
>>
>> If the button works to initiate a shut down then the button is okay.
>> The difference is on power up the button sends a signal through the
>> USB
>> connection to start the computer.  This was a non-standard
>> implementation of USB and Apple eventually abandoned it.  It's
>> possible
>> the iMac is "new" enough that it doesn't implement the keyboard power
>> on, I don't know when things changed.
>>
>> Me, I wouldn't worry about it, just use the power button on the
>> computer.
>>
>
> What Clark said, plus this:
>
> Somewhere in the 400 MHz G3 iMac production run, probably fairly close
> to startup of 450 MHz production, Apple stopped using power on from
> the keyboard. I've seen some 400 MHz units that would power on from
> the keyboard; others that wouldn't. I've also seen some early 400 MHz
> units that wouldn't run Apple Hardware Test while later units will. So
> it's clear to me that some major shifts in iMac G3s happened during
> the 400 MHz run. I've not seen that many 450 MHz iMacs, but I don't
> think any I saw would start from the keyboard. All 500 MHz G3 iMacs
> (both those with Motorola processors and those with IBM processors)
> will start only from the built-in power button. The same is true of
> the IBM-only 600 and 700 MHz.
>
> Your built-in power button may have a weak return spring, which is why
> it doesn't sit flush with the bezel. Or someone may have opened up the
> unit, fiddled with the internal power button (yep, there are two --
> three actually -- the outer button pushes on the spring-loaded inner
> button, which has a projection that pushes the actually power button),
> broke something and jury rigged a fix. As long as yours works, I'd
> leave it alone.
>
> HTH,
>
> Jim
>
> >


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