Dear Michaels,

I've just written off-list to Gabriel with the same conclusion and the attached image. In short, the effect is in fact a consequence of the "Legacy"-scheme.

Best

Herbie

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Am 04.07.25 um 11:39 schrieb Michael Schmid:
Hi Michael,

the reason for the problem is the following:
The wand starts from the image center and then goes to the right until it finds an edge of the thresholded region. In the 'wand_tool_does_not_work' file it finds an inner hole (one pixel not thresholded) and thresholds that single pixel.

You can avoid this by using wand mode '8-connected' instead of the default (legacy mode).
     doWand(getWidth/2, getHeight/2, 0, "8-connected");
8-connected mode is also more robust in some other aspects.
Don't care about the tolerance value (3rd argument, here set to 0), it is ignored for thresholded images.


Michael
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On 03.07.25 18:38, Cammer, Michael wrote:

I posted images at
https://microscopynotes.com/temp/wand_tool_works.png
https://microscopynotes.com/temp/wand_tool_does_not_work.png

The following code always works when the run("Median...", "radius=2"); is run. But looking at the image that does not work, I don’t see a single pixel near getWidth/2, getHeight/2 which does not fall withing the threshold range.

Cheers-
Michael


    run("Select None");
    run("8-bit");
    //run("Median...", "radius=2");
    setAutoThreshold("Default no-reset");
    getThreshold(min, max);
    max = max * 1.25;            // grab additional periphery which may be thin and light
    setThreshold(0, max, "raw");
    doWand(getWidth/2, getHeight/2);
    run("Set Measurements...", "area display redirect=None decimal=2");
    run("Measure");
    print(getTitle + "\t  " + getResult("Area") + "\t pixels -- result really should be reported as um^2");
    selectWindow("Log");



-----Original Message-----
From: Gluender <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2025 9:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: help with wand tool

[EXTERNAL]

Greetings Michael,

do have images to test?

Best

Herbie

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Am 03.07.25 um 15:48 schrieb Cammer, Michael:
We have images where there is dark object at the center of the field that we want to measure.  We are very puzzled because the following code works for some images and not for others.  When we manually click using the wand tool, it always works, but this code only works on some images and not others.

We are using ImageJ 1.54q14  with java 1.8.0_172.

Help would be appreciated.  Thank you!

                  // This only reports area.  Best fitting ellipse or other morphometrics could be reported.
                  run("Select None");
                  run("8-bit");
                  setAutoThreshold("Default no-reset");
                  getThreshold(min, max);
                  max = max * 1.25;                                           // grab additional periphery which may be thin and light
                  setThreshold(0, max, "raw");
                  doWand(getWidth/2, getHeight/2);
                  run("Set Measurements...", "area display redirect=None decimal=2");
                  run("Measure");
                  print(getTitle + "\t  " + getResult("Area") + "\t pixels -- result really should be reported as um^2");
                  selectWindow("Log");

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