Me too, Me too,
Thank you.
-----Original Message-----
From: ## Dusty Carden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, June 17, 1999 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Rule and 5.04
>It is sad that we have to deal with SPAM like we do, however
>I have found it almost a necessity in running a public mail
>server.
>
>I actually considered opening up either a mailing list or
>a bulletin board forum just for that purpose. However
>there were a couple of factors which concerned me.
>
>One, as I point out to anyone that I assist with this, what
>is one man's SPAM may be another man's treasure. What
>I filter may be too restrictive for others. And I would not want
>to get into a situation where a big debate was held regarding
>whether something should be considered as SPAM or not.
>I only filter stuff that is taken from actual SPAMS received
>here on our servers or picked up from NANAE however
>this does occasionally mean throwing the baby out with the
>bathwater.
>
>Two, such a forum would have to be private and access restricted
>only to known admins that were interested in stopping such garbage.
>Once any known SPAMMER got on the list or got access to
>the global rules then it would be easy for them to get around those
>rules. Or make myself and others in the forum open game for some
>SPAM slinging.
>
>I am still open for suggestions on this. I have only implemented the
>filtering here to work with the current Imail setup. There are
>several ways this could be improved and hopefully Ipswitch will one
>day address this issue a little closer. However what is available does
>work pretty well.
>
>Of the options I would like to see if the ability to send filtered mail
>to a holding area. An administrator could then examine the filtered
>messages and decide whether they are valid or not and be able to
>selectively send these messages on to their destination transparent
>to the user. This method would be better than utilizing one of the
>systems such as MAPS in that it would allow the administrator to
>decide what mail they do not want to receive.
>
>Anyone that ever used Paul Sica's SPAM filter on IMS mail server
>is probably familiar with the Trash bin and the ability to move valid
>messages
>to the Incoming folder and have the processed normally if they were
>caught by mistake or for some other reason. Just one of those things
>on my wish list.
>
>Enough babbling. I will send all that have requested my setup today.
>
>Dusty
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Kevin Coveney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 9:55 AM
>Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Rule and 5.04
>
>
>With all this interest, has anyone considered joining together
>to produce a "master spam list rule file" that we could all contribute
>to and share.
>
>Might help everyone, and relieve Dusty of all the responiblity ;)
>
>-Kevin
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Grant Griffith
>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 10:49 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Rule and 5.04
>>
>>
>> Me too Dusty. I set-up the one for the new virus, but would be
>> interested in getting a big start on the other virus's and spammers.
>>
>> Grant Griffith
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> From: "Vaughn Thurman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:35:10 -0400
>>
>> >Hey Dusty!
>> I'd love to have a look at that too. Your stuff seems pretty well
>> thought out and I would definitely be interested in what you are doing to
>> block the spammo boys. I have not gotten in to the rules yet and
>> that would
>> be helpful in a big way.
>> -V
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: ## Dusty Carden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 6:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Rule and 5.04
>>
>>
>> > I will try to get something together for you this afternoon.
>> > Then I will e-mail it to you off list if that is okay. My views of
>> > SPAM can appear a little warped compared to some Admins.
>> >
>> > I am actually working on a web site with the layout I have. It is
>> > nothing special but it works for me. From what I have seen it
>> > is working for a few others too.
>> >
>> > Dusty
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Wayne Maw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 1:31 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Rule and 5.04
>> >
>> >
>> > Would anyone mind sharing the rules.ima file for a good all round spam
>> > filter?
>> >
>> > (They keep driving me nut's with user complaints)
>> >
>> >
>> > Wayne.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: John Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: 16 June 1999 19:33
>> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Rule and 5.04
>> >
>> >
>> > > Won't work. I had to create a batch file to copy the spam
>> file to each
>> > > individual mailbox or domain. Not very pleasant way of doing
>> it but it
>> > > worked. Thanks to Dusty, here in this group, I now have good
>> anti-spam
>> > > setup. IPSwitch needs to create something much better.
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: Kurt A. Butzin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 11:12 AM
>> > > Subject: [IMail Forum] Rule and 5.04
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Has anyone been successful at getting the rules to work system wide
>> with
>> > > > 5.04. I have no problem getting them to work on a domain by domain
>> > basis,
>> > > > but no luck putting the rules file in the top directory to
>> be used by
>> > the
>> > > > whole system as in the manual.
>> > > >
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