Received an email a bit ago that states SmarterMail 4 will incorporate
SpamAssassin out of the box.

Bill Foresman
Matrosity Hosting
www.matrosity.com
850.656.2644

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MICROTECH ]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Quemanager hanging again

You're right, not easy, not realistic.


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el: viernes, 15 de diciembre de 2006 18:01
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Asunto: RE: [IMail Forum] Quemanager hanging again


Sure......and then should they support any third party free utility to do
AntiSpam?  Because I got a WHOLE lot of free Linux ones that I would like to
add into that mix.  I think that seems pretty unrealistic.  ASSP would need
to partner with Ipswitch and do what any partnership would
fees/contracts/ndc's and so on.  Not as easy as you think.


-----------------------------------------
Travis Rabe



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Seems to me that ipswitch would be smart to support an assp hook to retain
customers.


Bill Foresman
Matrosity Hosting
www.matrosity.com
850.656.2644

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Just my experience... don't care how emabarrasing is for IpSwitch team.
I'm srry for them, but a free-open-source-3rd-party software mantains my
$USD application alive.
If assp wasn't installed, we had moved to other software. We found assp
looking for mail servers :o





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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de Heimir Eidskrem
Enviado el: viernes, 15 de diciembre de 2006 17:37
Para: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Asunto: Re: [IMail Forum] Quemanager hanging again


Thank you for the suggestion but it must be so embarrassing for Ipswitch to
read it.
Customers required to run 3rd party applications to make Imail stable.



Servei Tècnic [ MICROTECH ] wrote:
yes, install 3rd party such as assp http://www.asspsmtp.org We had the same
problem. Our queue hangs up to ten times per day.
we had a script running every 30 minutes to check if queue was running or
stop pending, killing task and starting service again.
the problem went away after installing ASSP, never more queuemgr hangs (8
months assp running).


Just try. You'll be surprised!!


Regards,
Pere.

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Enviado el: viernes, 15 de diciembre de 2006 16:11
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Asunto: Re: [IMail Forum] Quemanager hanging again


Doug Traylor wrote:

Quemanager goes into "stopping" mode but will never stop.
You have to kill the process and restart it for it to work.
How about fixing this problem once for all.

I  have  a  similar problem with 8.22 and a certain mail which kills
SMTPd32 -
Only  the  first  line of the header gets stuck in the SPOOl directoy,
when   the  service  dies.  Now I use ASSP to block it on the Adres, I
found in the logs.

Use  the free version of serversalive with the SMTP-Roundtrip Plugin If  it
fails,  start  a  batch  to  Stop all Imail-Services, kill all hanging
Services and finally restart all Services.

http://www.woodstone.nu/salive/index.asp

Not to minimize the problems others are having, but we've been running
8.22 for a year and it has been rock solid on an old Dell server with a T1.
We've always kept up with the patches and haven't had a lick of trouble with
Imail stopping or dying, in over 6 years.  With only 10k SMTP connections a
day and 3k emails a day actually handled by Imail, I would think we are also
substatially smaller than most Imail sites, so maybe that has something to
do with it.

It is, more importantly, completely insolated from the internet and no
external SMTP gets to it without first going through ASSP, Trend AV gateway,
& hMailserver (ClamAV/antiphish gateway).  These odd, killer emails are
apparently just not reaching our Imail.

I also use Servers Alive to monitor the services from another computer,
although I am not using the roundtrip plugin.  It has been very stable and
useful, and I use it to monitor other servers and services as well.  Very
configurable but can momentarily run the cpu at 100% when trying to
communicate with a service that is down.
Noticable since I run it on my desktop at work and things come to a
screaming halt for a few moments and my system fan spools up right before I
get notice that a problem exists. Probably my fault since I am running it on
a 2ghz Celeron with 512MB ram and have that much and more in use most of the
time.

Good luck,

Doug Traylor
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I am not sure about the point in your email.
I did not see any suggestion on how to correct this problem or your own
personal experience.
I read your blurb about a lightweight mail server that has nothing to do
with this

Are you telling us that we need to install a 3rd party application to make
Imail run stable?

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