That's just a router making Network Address Translation (NAT) with an IP of a DSL connection, that can help all your machines go out to Internet, it also has got a firewall inside, the firewall has some rules like: From Port To Port Protocol Policy any 1024:65535 mail.dom.com 25 tcp,udp Deny This rule is not usefull for any of us, because no spam will able to connect to the SMTP port, but all the mail machines from Internet will not be able too. I think the best way is if you're an ISP, make relay for local address only, and put all the addresses of your pool in the local address table of the Imail machine. Of course, a firewall is always necessary. The ping is just a packet of the ICMP protocol, like traceroute and error messages, and can't be used to detect spamming-free machines, the only way is make a telnet to port 25, and try to send a message "by hand", and see what the machine responds, you can find more information searching for spam in any engine. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Buchwalder Roger Sent: jueves 5 de octubre de 2000 11:57 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] How spammers find open relays... Scott, Yes, it can find SMTP services (it only need connect to one, to say it exists) but typically, only on port 25 What is, when I would use a Firewall? We tested a product, called Linksys Instant Broadband EtherFast Cable/DSL Router (http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=142&grid=5) I can enable something, where it doesn't answer to pings. I'm not sure, about pings to open ports, but I think it will be a nice solution. Did somebody has some experience with it? BTW, if you would be so kind as to tell me where you found those unauthorized copies of Ipswitch products, I would be most grateful. I may even be able to wrangle a reward for you, for your effort. I cannot make any promises on this, but will do all in my power to get you something for your effort!! I'll call this "user friendly"!!! Merci Daniel Danke Roger Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html to be removed from this list. An Archive of this list is available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ �y��+"�m�������r(��.��+����X��X���m�[hm�ޚ��u���b�X�� ���b�����+-�Ưj)ZnW��m���� ��V�r�y�&�)��W���X��*l�+\��&