>Anyone know what happened to orbs.org?  One of our IMail systems was
>recently added to it (we recieved an EMail from them stating so),
>however the IMail system is NOT an open relay in any way.  Upon going to
>their site, it says the following:

I've never heard of ORBS listing an IP address that was not an open relay; 
you really should double-check it.

>"Due to circumstances beyond our control, the ORBS website is no longer
>available."

Most likely they were hacked.

>I know they've had ongoing issues with the "Spam-police" at
>mail-abuse.org.  Does anyone here seriously use either of these
>services?  If so, why?  Is it because you don't know how to configure a
>good mail filtering system or is there some feature I'm missing?

A *lot* of people use them, especially the mail-abuse.org ones.  RBL, RSS, 
and DUL are very useful with low false positives.  Some people say that 
ORBS should be used because so few legitimate mail servers are still open 
relays, and those that aren't need to learn to fix their open relays.  I 
personally wouldn't block on ORBS (except the spam source databases and such).

                                                         -Scott

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