Of course I'm bitter!  And so would anyone else that properly secures
their SMTP servers and still gets listed.  What in the hell does 40k
delivers/hour have to do with mail-abuse.org?
 

-Mark McDonald 
Siteserver Account Executive 

EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Voice: 800.610.9856 Ext 231 
Cell:  805.857.5614 
Fax:   888.333.2710 

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Lahman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] ORBS


Mark is just bitter he got listed with ORBS a long time ago in a galaxy
far far away...  Live and learn, and let bygones be bygones.  You should
look into using Listar as your list server.   <http://www.Listar.org>
http://www.Listar.org  As Len said, (not an exact quote) Listar + RedHat
Linux 7.1 (which has a built in firewall) + Postfix (as the MTA)
processes 40 K deliveries/hour.  This sounds like you are at the point
where you need a heavy duty solution such as this.  Better to upgrade
now than to wait until your e-mail starts out with "HELP!"
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark McDonald" <  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] ORBS


No, dump ORBS/MailAbuse if you use them and don't support companies like
them.  IMail is in accord with every RFC.

-Mark McDonald
Siteserver Account Executive

EMail:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: 800.610.9856 Ext 231
Cell:  805.857.5614
Fax:   888.333.2710



-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Lohr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:19 AM
To:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] ORBS


Well my third request for the day.  With all the talk about ORBS and
MAPS I have a question.  It was said on this list that if you don't have
opt-in and opt-out on your web site you will get blacklisted.  I have
both and everyonce in awhile I still get the complaint I never
subscribed take me off of your list rant and rave complaint email.
Since Imail doesn't support the confirmation stage am I open to be
blacklisted?  I have found ways to have IMail manage the subscription
but have the mails sent out using my own app so they never appear to be
bulk emails.  Am I asking for trouble with this?  Should I dump IMails
list server.  My volume is 100,000 plus daily and is growing

 




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