I find this funny that over the last week my logs have become enormous
because of ORDB. I work for an association that sends out blast emails to
their members. Some of these members are hosting somewhere that believes
in ORDB.
So, I have no choice but to comply to some third parties rules or suffer
the consequences of bounced emails and huge logs and more drain on the
server since they are replying no each of the 20 times I try to send out an
email.
If someone could help me make sure I have the right fields checked I would
appreciate it. Here is some background information:
Imail 6.05 (I am waiting to switch, I have the disks but no time. Is it
safe to go to 7?)
I use killer web templates
A lot of my clients members use aol and compuserve so I need to be able to
allow compuserve and aol to switch ip's every refresh.
* I want to only relay mail for local users (I assume this means any domain
on my server and any of their users)
So I have the following checked:
Relay for local users only
Allow remote mail to local groups
Refuse Null<>Senders
Check valid sender
Auto deny possible hack events
Disable smtp VRFY command
Am I good to go?
thanks,
Bill Kaigler
At 09:18 AM 8/22/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>>Does anybody know, "Am I being shakin down here?"
>
>No.
>
>>Who is ORDB.org and where did they come from....
>
>They are one of the handful of replacements for ORBS that popped up when
>Alan decided to quickly shut down ORBS.
>
>>I am getting mail saying that I am relaying mail from them and that i will
>>be listed in their DB of open relays.
>
>Well, that begs the question: Are you relaying?
>
>The answer, for you, is "no and yes" (in that order). The chances of a
>spammer using your open relay are small, because the obvious hole is
>closed. But you still do have a hole.
>
>>This guy Boll Overgaard says that his software is more up to date than the
>>other spamcops after I sent him the Maps results. Is there no standard
>>for the
>>police?
>
>Nope. You can't just say "I'm not an open relay". It's kind of like
>telling a cop, "Please don't arrest me, I'm innocent." You have to prove it.
>
>There are about 20 different ways that a spammer can relay through your
>mail server. Someone recently posted a link to a site (
>http://www.abuse.net ?) that tests most of those ways.
>
>>This spamcop thing is starting to remind me of ASCAP and BMI in the music
>>industry.
>
>Not many people will block based on ORDB. They know better.
>
>>I do not have relaying for addresses set-up. Is that ORDB's business?
>
>YES! It is their business to know if you are an open relay. Whether or
>not that is *right* is quite debatable.
>
>>My log sizes are consistent and no huge abuse attempts are obvious. Many are
>>trying...... I am sure that someone slips through. But is that what this
>>ORDB guy is saying...."no-one gets through or I put you on my list?"
>
>Yes. But, if you are set up properly, no-one should be able to get
>through (except your own customers, but ORDB won't list you for that --
>others take care of that).
>
>>But still, the point being is that I am OK with the other spamcops.
>
>But it's possible that they don't have you listed because they don't know
>of a spamming method that ORDB does know about.
>
>>All I need is an understanding of what these want without someone getting
>>weird about it and just telling me to fix it or else.
>
>Now we come to the point.
>
>Go to your \IMail\spool\SYS0819.TXT file.
>
>Search for "spamtest@". You'll see where the E-mail came in, and where it
>was delivered.
>
>You'll need to contact IMail about how to fix the problem. Since you're
>running IMail 4.x, you'll probably need to upgrade in order to get off of
>ORDB. Or, don't upgrade, and accept being on ORDB knowing that very few
>people are going to block your mail.
>
> -Scott
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