> I'm  sorry,  but  I  just  don't  buy  in  to the current "academic"
> argument over the X1 stuff.

The  RFCs  are  the  fundamental building blocks of Internet software.
Attempting  to  marginalize  them  by  calling  them  "academic" fails
because  all of the core functionality of the Internet is derived from
RFC  specifications  originally  designed  for  academic  and  defense
audiences.

> Consensus  says  it isn't causing a problem now, and there is only a
> theoretical potential.

Yes,  that's  called a "bug report." Perhaps you ran into some in your
development  days.  What we're trying to do is highlight the situation
in which this bug (and it is a bug if a standards-based product breaks
a standard) becomes a full-blown DoS opportunity.

> If the "X1" problem became real, and tons of e-mail starting getting
> blocked, it would have to be fixed.

Yep,  I'm  sure  you'd have been overjoyed to wait for..oh, say, three
days?...before  we  could  convince  Ipswitch  that  this *might* be a
standards  issue,  and another who-knows-how-long before the fix could
be  adequately  regression  tested. We know it breaks peering, for one
thing,  but  there  must  be  a lot of undocumented areas that will be
affected  as  well, or Ipswitch wouldn't be pushing back as hard. This
thread  has  shown  us  that  an  overnight fix is impossible, so your
declaration  that  the whole discussion has been "vacuous" is ignorant
of that substantial progress.

Would  you  prefer  that  we only pursue this thread when *every Imail
server  can  no  longer  communicate  with a major ISP*? When Ipswitch
suddenly  realizes,  under  duress,  that they may have to support EOL
versions, since they have the same issue? You'd be more comfy with the
thread being "on-topic" if there were millions of people freaking out,
flooding  Ipswitch's  voice  mailboxes and this slow-as-molasses list,
dropping   Imail  by  the  dozen  when  they  couldn't  get  immediate
resolution?  When  all  of  *your  own*  mailboxes  are filled by your
hosting customers? Or maybe you think we should just wait and complain
to AOL?

I  think  the only reason you felt at liberty to dismiss the thread is
that  Ipswitch *has* actually responded and has proactively added this
issue  to  the  mix.  Like  it  or not, you feel more comfortable now.
Pretending that we didn't get anywhere is disingenuous.

BTW,  it's common practice to include your name, even a first name, on
discussion lists.

Sandy


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