I appreciate the comments.  In an ideal world, all software companies would
have a central forum where users/developers could discuss security, bugs,
and other technical issues openly in the same way scientific researchers
have journals and peer reviews.  After all, everyone knows it can take
many people to construct a building, but only one person to bring it down.

IMHO, it is only by open discussion and experimentation that we can keep
ahead of the sort of people that would like to see our systems brought down
for whatever reason.  The problem is that when one of us finds something,
it is a little difficult to quickly communicate to all the right people
that the problem exists, then collectively work towards a solution.  I
appreciate the fact that IPSwitch is working on this problem, but I know
that there are many of us that are willing to help at no cost.

It's like all the news reporters you hear about getting past airport
security.
Sure it's a good thing that security is being testing and the results
published.
It politically and financially motivates the "higher-ups" to act quickly to
improve their systems.  It's a bad thing that we're letting everyone know
that it can be done.

Another $0.02 in the opinion pool.  With all this money, we might be able
to get ourselves a "daisy cutter".

-Norm

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Norman,

Wednesday, March 20, 2002 you wrote:
NJN> I don't know if there are any other conclusions that can be
NJN> drawn, but to me this points to someone who knows nothing about
NJN> iMail and just wanted to try to get a few kicks.

     A lot of people, myself included, use various "public" e-mail
     accounts when we are uncertain just where our e-mail might be
     sent.

NJN> A round of "I'm sorry"'s all around to anyone who was offended by
NJN> my (including, but not limited to) comments, posts, rantings,
NJN> HTML emails, stats, web page colors, and/or disposition.

     Actually my own opinion is that you are to be thanked and
     congratulated for finding the problem and reporting it.  I
     certainly tested it both from your test page and from my own test
     program and I found that you were exactly correct.  It is a
     significant vulnerability.

     Other security vulnerabilities have been reported on this forum.
     One that I do not believe has been fixed yet by IPSWITCH has to
     do with using a % sign address sent to a secondary mail server
     for IMAIL. Scott Perry has a provision in declude which handles
     this so I have not been too concerned about it. However, I have
     stopped a few messages that were indeed attempting to take
     advantage of the vulnerability. I know this was reported to IMAIL
     but I do not believe it has been corrected.

     So I appreciate the fact that you posted the information to the
     list.  At least I can decide if I want to respond to the
     vulnerability myself.

Terry Fritts


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