Norman, you are tops!... thanks a lot ~ I have ms access and i'll give 
it a spin.  I'm guessing here but I think I need to add all the default 
tables that align with the imail provided odbcuser.dll.

thanks norman & the best to you and yours,


Rick

Norman J. Nolasco wrote:

> Sorry, I think I know where you're at now.  First of all, the "External
> User Database" is for those who want to use Microsoft SQL Server, Microsoft
> Access, Oracle, or some other third party database software for their users.
> This software must be purchased separately from their respective
> manufacturers
> and has nothing to do with IPSwitch or IMail.
> 
> If you don't want to spend the additional couple of thousand dollars on
> licenses for an enterprise database like Oracle or MS SQL Server, a
> Microsoft
> Access database will work just fine.  A copy of MS Access is about $100
> and can be found at most computer stores.
> 
> If you don't have another database product or don't want to deal with the
> problems associated with relational databases, IMail provides its own
> storage
> for user accounts, the "IMail Database" setting.  With this setting, instead
> of storing the user account information in an "external database", the data
> is stored in your registry.  Using the "IMail Database" setting is the
> easiest
> and (I've heard) the most efficient way to use IMail.
> 
> For those that need to perform "joins" or complex database operations on
> their
> user accounts, the "External Database" setting is one way to go.  You can
> refer
> to my previous email, but I'll sum up the steps here.  They might make more
> sense now.
> 
> For the External Database
> 1. Install database software/server (ie. MS SQL Server, MS Access, Oracle,
> ...)
> 2. Setup a new database within the database software/server.
> 3. Create a DSN:
> Windows 2000: Start -> Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Data Sources
> Windows NT: Start -> Control Panel -> ODBC
> Name it IMAILSECDB if you want to match IMail's default settings.
> 4. Add a new Host in IMail
> 5. Select "External Database" and click "Configure".  Now you can use the
> default settings that you mentioned.
> 6. When you've finished the Add Host procedure, a new table should be in
> your
> database under Access or whatever database program you're using.
> 
> 
>>Here's my wall;  how do i add a user to the table?  via asp?  if so i
>>
> 
> - You can use the IMail Administrator, the IMail Web Messaging client, or
> your
> own ASP pages.  The changes you make will be reflected in the database
> tables
> in your database program.
> - You can use ASP, but you've better be pretty good at ADO or something
> similar.
> 
> 
>>can't seem to access the DSN IMAILSECDB.. i've searched the hd and
>>cannot find it anywhere.
>>
> 
> You're not going to find it anywhere.  You have to set it up manually. See
> Step 3 above.  It's not going to be a file you can easily read.  I'm not
> even sure if it is a file per se.  The default setting in IMail doesn't
> create a DSN... it just suggests the name for a DSN... and the default is
> just an example that should work for MS Access.
> 
> 
>>should i just make an access DSN and point to it?
>>
> 
> Yes.
> 
> 
>>very basic.  i've tried to use the 'add new user' function/button within
>>the imail administrator but i believe that's only for imails user
>>
> 
> If you have everything set up right, it will make changes to the external
> database.  IMail user account storage (as far as I know) for each host is
> either one or the other, not both.  You either use the IMail Database, the
> NT SAM, or an external database.  You CAN use different storage types for
> different hosts within the same IMail server.
> 
> 
>>Any suggestion good/bad will be greatly appreciated.
>>
> 
> I hope this helps.  If you need more assistance, you can email me off list
> directly and I'll get some screenshots to you.  It's hard to explain over
> plain text email.
> 
> -Norm
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Leske
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:39 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] External Database
> 
> 
> Norman,
> 
> I thank you for a very informative 'how to' and by golly I think my
> youngs son could handle that.  Me?  well old dog.. hard headed I guess..
> what i'm trying to do is to use the default settings within imail for an
> external database.  I have selected to use the External User Database
> (does imail make this?)  Then I've let imail put in the default DSN of
> IMAILSECDB and lastly its' default table name of [default] which i
> understand will make a table called something like mailme_com.
> 
> Here's my wall;  how do i add a user to the table?  via asp?  if so i
> can't seem to access the DSN IMAILSECDB.. i've searched the hd and
> cannot find it anywhere.
> 
> should i just make an access DSN and point to it?  I am truely sorry if
> this sounds like a mess but to me i'm sure i'm overlooking something
> very basic.  i've tried to use the 'add new user' function/button within
> the imail administrator but i believe that's only for imails user
> database.
> 
> Any suggestion good/bad will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> thanks in advance,
> 
> rick
> 
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