Gee, sounds like some one has a (misconceived?) bone to pick with Scott?

If I made our mail service as secure and safe as I would like it to be,
I would not have any customers!

There is risk in everything we do. 

We have to weigh the risk against the benefit against the cost.

Then take step to mitigate the risk where feasible.

It is a constant game/war between us and them.

No matter what steps we take today, we will have to take more tomorrow.

1 product/service can never be a fix all.

OK, enough of my rambling. Probably equals 3 cents by now anyways.
Sorry, no refunds allowed.

John Tolmachoff 
IT Manager, Network Engineer
211 E. Imperial Hwy., Suite 106
Fullerton, CA� 92835
714-578-7999, ext. 104
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.reliancesoft.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jason Newland
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 8:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] address harvesting...

>Let's see, for an ISP with 1,000 users, at $3.60/year each that would
be 
>$3,600/year.  That's even more expensive than IMail AntiVirus.  :)

That is cheap if you factor in the man hours spent maintaining in house
systems, the cost of the systems themselves, and the wasted bandwidth!
Plus it isn't just an anti-virus system, it also does monitoring, load
balancing, notifications, spam filtering, e-mail bomb filtering, and
dictionary attack filtering.  I think if you add the cost of doing all
of that in house, your cost is going to be much higher than 3,600/year.

>... in exchange for a third party having access to your E-mail, and
adding 
>an extra point (albeit likely very secure) for unauthorized access to
the 
>E-mail.

This is a pretty misguided statement considering the insecure nature of
e-mail anyway.  Anyone truly worried about mail security will use pgp,
or some other type of encryption device along with digital signatures.
And as for the "extra hop" ??? The Postini service adds about an extra
80 milliseconds to the delivery time of an e-mail.  I don't think a
companies customers are going to be up in arms about the slow mail
system over this one.  More likely, the in house systems (running
declude, etc.) are going to delay mail more than the postini system.
Their systems are dedicated to 1 process, not 10 like most corporate
mail systems(listsrv,www mail, virus scanning, spam filtering, pop3
traffic, etc.))




Jason





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