Jeff, Did you now you lost almost all of your rights with Bush running the country.
Vote for Dilbert in 2004!!! :) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jeff Demel Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] New Bill says we have to store email for 90 days! Gathering evidence without a court order or search warrant to capture personal, private e-mails of a "suspicious" user??? What happened to innocent until proven guilty, or due process, or some such right we're supposed to have? To hell with the monetary costs to ISPs, what about the cost to our and our user's privacy and freedom? I haven't read the thing yet, but if you're right, this is an extremely frightening piece of legislation. Sounds like some fascist bullshit to me. -Jeff -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sheldon Koehler Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 6:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] New Bill says we have to store email for 90 days! > yeah, but if you read the amendments that have been attached to the > bill, they state that the government will compensate for expenses > incurred by conformity to the bill. I don't think they realize how > much money this will cost the taxpayer. I did some more research myself. The 90 days is only if you notice something suspicious and you only need to log everything for that person(s). This may actually turn into a favorable bill. It gives us as ISP's the right to monitor a suspicious user without a court order. We need not divulge the information, but we are protected from liability while collecting it waiting for the search warrant to be produced. Time will only tell what it will look like once it gets voted on though... Sheldon Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partner http://www.tenforward.com Ten Forward Communications 360-457-9023 Nationwide access with neighborhood support! "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html to be removed from this list. An Archive of this list is available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Please visit the Knowledge Base for answers to frequently asked questions: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html to be removed from this list. An Archive of this list is available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Please visit the Knowledge Base for answers to frequently asked questions: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ --- [This E-Mail scanned for viruses by Awebhosting, Inc.] --- [This E-Mail scanned for viruses by Awebhosting, Inc.] Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html to be removed from this list. An Archive of this list is available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Please visit the Knowledge Base for answers to frequently asked questions: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
