I'm not sure what Imail is doing with the unusual mail address
([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but thats not why your listed as an
open relay.  Your an open relay because your relay option is set to "Relay
for Local Hosts Only" and the address appears to be in a local domain.  The
ONLY safe relay options are "No Mail Relay" and "Relay Mail for Addresses".
Otherwise, you will eventually end up in an open relay list.

Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Keif Gwinn
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 5:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Open relay problem with Imail


Hi,

Someone submitted our relay (secondary) Imail server to one of these
open relay checkers, and it's showing as open, because, it is ! :(

http://ordb.org/lookup/?host=217.204.140.37

However, this has show up a bug/problem in imail's handling of dodgy
email addresses, as shown by this relay checker. Particulary nasty of
the relay checker to try this but hey... by sending to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] it's managed to by pass the checking
for authentication. More details are below...

Now, the setup is as follows.

Zeno/trajan is 217.204.140.37/38  and running Imail 7.04.
Jovian is 212.135.143.132 and running Imail 7.07.

Zeno is setup with a list of domains that it's supposed to relay for in
it's host file, as per ipswitches instructions on imail relay rules.
It's set on the smtp service to 'Relay mail for' and then a list of IP
addresses of destination mail servers. The hosts file contains the ip
address of the destination mail server, and the domain name.

172.16.143.132  iarna.co.uk

(horrible internal network translation I know, but heh :)

Jovian has a normal imail config and is set to relay for local IP
addresses and also do authenticated SMTP.

Iarna.co.uk is hosted on jovian, internetpixie.net is hosted on a remote
server.

Now, you do the following smtp transaction from an address zeno doesn't
recognise as local and so shouldn't relay straight for, you can do this.

helo testing
mail from:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
rcpt to:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
data
Subject: This shouldn't work...

But it looks like it will :(

.


And here are the logs showing what happens...

05:30 10:21 SMTPD(000500A6) [217.204.240.61] helo testing
05:30 10:21 SMTPD(000500A6) [217.204.240.61] mail from:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
05:30 10:21 SMTPD(000500A6) [217.204.240.61] rcpt
to:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
05:30 10:21 SMTPD(000500A6) [217.204.240.61] d:\Imail\Spool\Def290a6.SMD
246
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) processing d:\Imail\Spool\Qef290a6.SMD
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) Trying iarna.co.uk (0)
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) Connect iarna.co.uk [172.16.143.132:25] (1)
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) 220 jovian.1brick.iarna.co.uk (IMail 7.07
15490-8) NT-ESMTP Server X1
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) >EHLO zeno.1brick.iarna.co.uk
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) 250-jovian.1brick.iarna.co.uk says hello
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) 250-SIZE 0
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) 250-8BITMIME
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) 250-DSN
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) 250-ETRN
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) 250-AUTH=LOGIN
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) 250 EXPN
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) >MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) 250 ok
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) >RCPT
To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) 250 ok its for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) >DATA
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) 354 ok, send it; end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) >.
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) 250 Message queued
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) rdeliver iarna.co.uk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 285
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) >QUIT
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) 221 Goodbye
05:30 10:21 SMTP-(0000062C) finished d:\Imail\Spool\Qef290a6.SMD
status=1

Then this is the log from jovian... I'd missed installing the time
syncher on this machine till I did this... fixed now :)

05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) processing
d:\IMail\spool\Qee8c086500e29cb4.SMD
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) Trying internetpixie.net (0)
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) Connect internetpixie.net
[212.35.225.149:25] (1)
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) 220 sulphur.cix.co.uk ESMTP Sendmail
8.11.3/CIX/8.11.3; Thu, 30 May 2002 10:21:53 +0100 (BST) (Nextra) Dogs
are running normally.. NO UCE [12474]
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) >EHLO jovian.1brick.iarna.co.uk
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) 250-sulphur.cix.co.uk Hello
jovian.iarnagroup.co.uk [212.135.143.132], pleased to meet you
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) 250-8BITMIME
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) 250-SIZE 50000000
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) 250-DSN
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) 250-ONEX
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) 250-XUSR
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) 250 HELP
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) >MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) 250 2.1.0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender ok
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) >RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) 250 2.1.5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
Recipient ok
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) >DATA
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by
itself
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) >.
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) 250 2.0.0 g4U9Lrl12475 Message accepted for
delivery
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) rdeliver internetpixie.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 447
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) >QUIT
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) 221 2.0.0 sulphur.cix.co.uk closing
connection
05:30 10:19 SMTP-(00000658) finished
d:\IMail\spool\Qee8c086500e29cb4.SMD status=1

So, we've successfully used zeno to send mail to an external mail
server... with no authentication. What can we do about this ? Is there
anything I can change on the servers, or is this a proper bug :) The
mal-formed email address is the worst bit... why is it expanding that to
be the email address ?

Thanks,

Keif Gwinn

IARNA, a Hostway Company
scotts sufferance wharf
1 mill street. london. se1
united kingdom
t/ +44 207 231 7766
f/ +44 207 231 2327
www.iarna.co.uk

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