discuss wrote:

> We are not an open relay 63.172.199.25 - we are very anti-spam and 
> do not allow our users to even relay with smtp auth.  We are 
> running and have been running imail 7.06 - no upgrades or changes 
> recently, we have had the exact same setup for years.
> 
> We have never been an open relay.  Never.  Never.  Never ever.  
> Did I say never?  Or even, never ever?
> 
> Yet both postfix and spambag have us listed. spambag seems 
> impossible and uncaring to get off - postfix wants to know what 
> emails have been blocked - well how in the hell am I supposed to 
> know?
> 
> 
> WE ARE NOT AN OPEN RELAY AND WE HAVE NEVER BEEN AN OPEN 
> RELAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!
> 
> 
> I am so f'ing pissed right now.  We work so hard for a quality, 
> secure, spam free system only to have crap like this.  Users are 
> pissed and thinking maybe I only give spam lip service.
> 
> So can anyone point out a - how this happened?  Don't tell me Ihad 
> to be an open relay.  That just is not true and could not have 
> happened.  I even went through the logs to see if some bizarre 
> hack had happened against us - nothing out of the ordinary in the 
> smtp logs.  Our web log W2020531.log is about 4 times the size it 
> normally is.  Any ideas?
> 
> I am waiting for my new service agreement so I can't upgrade.  Any 
> ideas?  Any help?  I am losing my mind.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chet 


Chet,

I've checked 5 major services:

25.199.172.63.relays.ordb.org -> 0.0.0.0
25.199.172.63.relays.osirusoft.com -> 0.0.0.0
25.199.172.63.orbs.dorkslayers.com -> 0.0.0.0
25.199.172.63.list.dsbl.org -> 0.0.0.0
25.199.172.63.relays.visi.com -> 0.0.0.0

All of which show negative results (good thing) and a couple of these 
database's are very, very strict.

Apparently they've listed a lot of sprintlink - Spambag: 
63.160.0.0-63.175.255.255

I'd suspect that postfix has done the same for the same reason.

Being that major isp's with the BIG $$$ really don't care about 
spam/viruses it would be my advice to you to either 1) send them a 
'friendly' email explaining your situation with the negative results 
from above and ask them to de-list you. 2) Find a reputable internet 
provider (good luck on that)..

This is just another FINE example of why we need the anti-spam law 
passed in the US.  At least it'll help curb some of the spam/porn.

~Rick





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