First let me correct myself the people that I had Relay For worked.  Anyone
that used SMTP AUTH did not work.  There was no entries in the log file
stating failed SMTP AUTH sessions, it was like they were not even hitting my
server.  It would keep asking the client over and over to enter their
password to send mail.  I restarted my SMTP service and they were able to
send mail, and I seen the SMTP AUTH sessions authenticate in the log file.
Maybe it was just a glitch, I don't know but it is working now.

Before I got to work:

20021029 074545 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (99A0014C) [65.66.8.21] connect
24.116.28.216 port 1058
20021029 074546 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (99A0014C) [24.116.28.216] HELO prod
20021029 074546 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (99A0014C) [24.116.28.216] MAIL FROM:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20021029 074546 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (99A0014C) [24.116.28.216] RCPT TO:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20021029 074546 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (99A0014C) [24.116.28.216] ERR
mail.compworldnet.com invalid user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Once I restarted the SMTP service:

20021029 093149 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (1B480224) [65.66.8.21] connect
24.116.28.216 port 1321
20021029 093149 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (1B480224) [24.116.28.216] EHLO prod
20021029 093149 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (00000CDC) Authenticated
[EMAIL PROTECTED], session treated as local.
20021029 093150 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (1B480224) [24.116.28.216] MAIL FROM:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20021029 093150 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (1B480224) [24.116.28.216] RCPT TO:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20021029 093150 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (1B480224) [24.116.28.216]
C:\IMail\spool\Da9e6224.SMD 3464
20021029 093150 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (1B480224) [24.116.28.216] MAIL FROM:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20021029 093150 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (1B480224) [24.116.28.216] RCPT TO:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20021029 093150 127.0.0.1       SMTP (972) processing
C:\IMail\spool\Qa9e6224.SMD
20021029 093150 127.0.0.1       SMTP (972) Trying VANOSS.K12.OK.US (0)
20021029 093150 127.0.0.1       SMTP (972) Connect VANOSS.K12.OK.US
[156.110.12.72:25] (1)
20021029 093150 127.0.0.1       SMTP (972) 220 dash.onenet.net -- Server
ESMTP (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.01 (built Sep 10 2002))
20021029 093150 127.0.0.1       SMTP (972) >EHLO mail.compworldnet.com
20021029 093150 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (1B480224) [24.116.28.216]
C:\IMail\spool\Da9e3224.SMD 1693



Thanks,


Kris McElroy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Internet Systems Engineer
Duracom, INC.
www.duracom.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sanford Whiteman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Len Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 11:35 PM
Subject: Re[3]: [IMail Forum] SMTP PROBLEMS


> > come  on,  Sandy,  you  know when SMTP AUTH fails, works, fails, and
> > then just works forever, NOBODY knows how to fix it.
>
> Sho' nuff, *if SMTP AUTH is what is failing*. Like I said--
>
> >> When  I refer to the logs "indicating" this issue, I mean they must
> >> "reflect" or "establish" that there is an issue...
>
> --so  if  he's seeing SMTP AUTH failures, there will be evidence be in
> the   logs:   either   because   AUTH-attempting  sessions,  and  only
> AUTH-attempting   sessions,  will  not  close  properly  (which  would
> readable  from  the  logs), or because 'failed authentication' will be
> logged  outright.  Note  that, as of his post, Kris thought there were
> two affected groups:
>
> > the clients that I have set to use SMTP AUTH or Relay for.
>
> In  other  words,  there's  no reason, without looking at the logs, to
> presuppose  that  the  former  group  (relay  by  AUTH)  is having the
> problems  you  mention, but the latter group (relay by IP) is actually
> not  seeing  what he thinks it's seeing. Kris also never wrote back to
> clarify  whether,  indeed,  he  was  saying  that  (a)  everyone who's
> supposed  to  relay  can't relay, (b) everyone who's supposed to relay
> can't  send  at all, or (c) something else. So our discussion could be
> completely off-base from the poster's situation, anyway.
>
> > 1)  the  SMTP  session hangs after the SMTP AUTH string is sent from
> > the mail client and Imail passes the string to a new SMTPD pid to do
> > the  AUTH.  The  new  PID  never  returns and answer, the main STMPD
> > sessions stalls cold.
>
> It doesn't happen this way. The AUTH happens in the same thread as the
> EHLO by calling a function in a DLL: no new thread or new PID. So it's
> either  the  calling  routine  or the AUTH function in the support DLL
> that you're pointing to, and there (see below) it's no sure thing that
> the  function  is receiving the correct data, since it's no sure thing
> that  the  caller  is receiving the correct data. Of course, it should
> not hang on failure.
>
> > 2) at the same point, the SMTPD PID comes back saying "auth failed",
> > while  the  user  and  password are very clearly valid.
>
> I  would  have  to see whether, on the wire, the user and password are
> "very  clearly  valid,"  then whether they are passed correctly to the
> AUTH  function,  before  blaming  the AUTH function. (The creds can be
> difficult  to validate, since everything is hashed, but it's important
> to be scientific.)
>
> -Sandy
>
>
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