William,
>I have to wait for IMail 8.01 at the end of June (est) because of a queue
> manager bug that sent me back to 7.15.
What queue manager bug are you referring to? I don't remember reading about this on
the list. We were planning an 8.0 upgrade soon in order to take advantage of the new
queue manage, but would rather wait if it is still buggy.
Thanks,
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: "William Lefkovics"
Sent: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 14:30:12 -0700
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Stay or Go...
Please do. Thanks!
I've only worked with a dozen or so mail servers, so I know there are lots out there.
I have to wait for IMail 8.01 at the end of June (est) because of a queue manager bug
that sent me back to 7.15. Other than that though, it will be a store and forward
with antispam functionality enabled to another system.
William
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Newland
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Stay or Go...
I will put together a list of vendors that, by their words, offer much greater
functionality in Spam controls than IMail8 does. And on the Postini front, we used
them for a spell, but using them as a front end didn't stop the Dictionary attacks at
all, and further, they rendered all of our logs-IP Blocks useless (since all incomming
SMTP connections came from their IP ranges).
Jason
----- Original Message -----
From: William Lefkovics
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Stay or Go...
I haven't read the other replies yet, but...
Not too many mail servers offer as much anti-spam functionality as IMail8. Most
depend on 3rd party applications to facilitate that process. Including the big boys.
It sounds like you are a good candidate for outsourcing, though.
www.postini.com for example.
Or www.bigfish.com
William Lefkovics
from TechEd
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Newland
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:56 AM
Subject: [IMail Forum] Stay or Go...
Everyone,
I have been sitting here pondering the usefulness of IMail for a few days now.
I just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the subject of abandoning Imail for
another mail solution.
Here are my observations so far: With spam being the number one concern I (and
most mail admins) have, what does i-mail offer that is usefull? Well, from where I
sit, we successfully filter about 95-99% of all Spam sent to our customers (Mind you
this is done with the wonderful Declude products as add ons, but could be done with
the new goodies in V8) The problem with this solution is that it isn't complete. The
effect of spam is still felt on my systems. Our CPU cycles spent dealing with it, and
our bandwidth wasted in accepting it in the first place. From a resource point of
view this is a worthless endeavor. The only real way that IMail prevents this waste
is the Kill file that blocks the message at the initial transaction level.
This brings me to my topic of switching to a better system. After a couple of
days of reading other vendors product sheets, I have came to the conclusion that IMail
is WAAAAY behind in the Spam department. It seems that most other mail solutions
already offer what we have been looking for in IMail. Such as dynamic kill files,
tarpitting (for defense against dictionary attacks, mass mailers, IPV4 lookups during
the SMTP transaction, Hijack prevention, and the list goes on.
I do have to say, that Yes, Imail is the 10 minute e-mail solution (or whatever
their pitch is), but that is all, you have to spend thousands of dollars in extra
hardware and software to achieve the same result that you get what other vendors offer
out of the box. So this leads me to believe that most IMail users continue to be
users due to the fact that the TRUE costs involved with IMail only creep up on you so
that you don't notice the price you pay!
Please let me know what your thoughts....
Jason
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