In version 8.0 the phrase list contained many domains since 8.0 did not have a URL 
domain reject list.  With the release of 8.01 the domains were moved from the phrase 
filter to the URL black list so the phrase file is smaller now.

Tripp




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail Server Antispam declining effectiveness?


> Hello Roger,
> 
> We have experienced a similar situation. Over the past week or so, more
> spam with easily identifiable spam characteristics has been getting past
> V8's anti-spam filters. In our situation, there are 2 reasons why:
> 
> V8's daily Postmaster reports have been very helpful for us to figure
> out our average daily mail volume (in and out, and the messages that are
> stopped by anti-spam filters). Over the past 2 months we get a daily
> average LocalDeliver of 2500 pieces of mail, 1000 pieces of mail
> RemoteDeliver, and about 400 pieces of mail filtered.
> 
> About a week ago, our daily LocalDeliver jumped from 2500 pieces to 4700
> pieces! Fortunately, our anti-spam filters had also doubled (to about
> 800). Obviously all of the additional 2300 pieces of mail that were
> delivered were spam.
> 
> The number of messages stopped by the anti-spam filters did not increase
> proportionally with the number of LocalDeliver messages, but it was
> still working. Initially I thought that maybe some of our blacklists had
> stopped working, but the logs confirmed that everything was working
> correctly. So, it seems that our week-long barrage of spam is allowing a
> greater percentage of spam to slip through.
> 
> So, it seems that while the spam filtering is not working as well as I
> would like, probably nothing has changed except for the exponential
> increase in spam being sent to us (I wish I knew why).
> 
> Secondly, in an attempt to try to improve our content filtering I
> installed Ipswitch's updated phrase and statistics list. This made
> matters worse. I was never a fan of Ipswitch's phrase list, but the new
> phrase list is only 5K in size (?) and the previous phrase list was 26K.
> I presume that the content that was removed from the phrase list was
> stopping a lot of spam. Since I updated to Ipswitch's new phrase list,
> the mail being stopped by phrase filtering has dropped from 800 to 300.
> I'm considering restoring the previous phrase list.
> 
> I must admit that our anti-spam solution is mostly 'hands-off' and I
> could do more to create a more intelligent phrase list, and I'd like to
> spend more time figuring out the IMail spam 'seeder' thingy.
> 
> As a side note, even though our spam loads have increased, and yes it
> seems that mail with easily identifiable 'spam' characteristics is
> getting through, we have not seen an increase in the really nasty spam.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Meyers
> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 8:10 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [IMail Forum] IMail Server Antispam declining effectiveness?
> > 
> > Good morning,
> > 
> > I just joined the forum today - hopefully this isn't a tired old
> > question...
> > 
> > I've been administrating version 8.0 of IMail Server for about 5
> weeks.
> > Up
> > until about 2 weeks ago, spam detection was getting steadily better as
> I
> > built up an improved phrase list with wildcards and slowly tightened
> the
> > advanced settings.  I've also cut down on the relatively rare false
> > positives using the white list.
> > 
> > Recently I feel that the spam detection has been less effective.
> Users
> > are
> > receiving a higher volume of spam once again, and some of it plainly
> > includes words that are in my phrase filter list.  There are also some
> > emails that are being marked as spam even though their domain, and
> even
> > specific email address, are in my white list.
> > 
> > Has anyone else noticed this sort of behavior?
> > 
> > ==========================================
> > Roger Meyers
> > Technical Support Analyst
> > Computer Trust Corporation
> > One State Street Suite 700
> > Boston, MA  02109-3507
> > Tel: 617-557-9264 x414   Fax: 617-557-9289
> > ==========================================
> > 
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