I apologize for submitting 4 different versions of the same question even after receiving answers. I thought my messages had not made it to the list but obviously I need to resign myself from being allowed to use a computer for a while. Thanks for the input and again, sorry for the annoyance caused by my repeated posts. I will now retreat into a hole until I'm sure I know what I'm doing again (which may be never ;-). I do now see the answers and appreciate the help.
Thanks,
Ben the repeat offender
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