In other words, you would like to keep the HELO/EHLO validation test and
allow Cox to fail it, yet accept mail from them?

Guy
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RMilner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 16:29
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Verify Mail From Address v8.2


> I'd love some advice on this one besides get a third party software.
>
> I would like to use the HELO/ELHO COMMANDS for Spam filtering. The problem
> is, only 1 Legit Mail server has an issue with it. Unfortunately, it is
Cox
> Enterprises, which send about 25% of the email that comes in here. They
are
> like the 10th biggest Privately owned Company in America, owning most of
Cox
> Cable, Cox Television, Rehser Entertainment, Cox Radio, Manheim Auto
> Auctions; Newspapers all over America, The Women's Soccer League, Direct
> Mail (snail mail)  businesses etc. I could care less about Cox. net which
is
> the mail users of Cox cable.
>
> Anyway, all their mail comes through the central server as:
>
> Received: from BATL0S04.cbi.cox.com [67.97.216.253] by mydomain.com with
> ESMTP
>   (SMTPD32-8.02) id A70E3B0248; Thu, 04 Sep 2003 19:13:18 -0400
> Received: by BATL0S04 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
>
> The issue is their MIS people do not care about Spam and let everything
pass
> (many executives have had it with the Spam and I know several are
> investigating moving divisions ton outside sources to control it, so this
> might be end up being their undoing as well in the MIS Department, but
> that's not going to happen tomorrow) so the MIS people see no reason to
fix
> this on their end:
>
> <<<snip>>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: (CCI-Atlanta)
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:25 PM
> To: (CBI-Atlanta)
> Cc: (CBI-Atlanta)
> Subject: RE: Cox email fails reverse DNS lookup
>
> It looks like for some reason he is trying to reverse lookup the sending
> domain - this is batl0s04.cbi.cox.com - however this is inside our
firewall,
> and he will not be able to look it up from outside (it is a 10. address)
>
> The actual sending IP is NAT'd and reverse DNS lookups fail on it.
>
> <<snip>>
>
> So of course, even though I have their mail server in white list (only
works
> in phrase checking) and Have the mail server in trusted domains, as it
fails
> HELO/ELHO, IMail doesn't care that it is trusted.
>
> 08:29 14:34 SMTPD(0007018C) [00000292] <mydomain.com> VALIDATION: (HELO)
> mydomain.com performing DNS lookup for HELO domain BATL0S04.cbi.cox.com
> 08:29 14:34 SMTPD(0007018C) [00000292] <mydomain.com> VALIDATION: (HELO)
> mydomain.com received reply from DNS server for HELO domain
> BATL0S04.cbi.cox.com
> 08:29 14:34 SMTPD(0007018C) [00000292] <mydomaincom> VALIDATION: (HELO)
> BATL0S04.cbi.cox.com domain failed active validation
> 08:29 14:34 SMTP(04C80002) Got White List and Content Filter for
> mydomain.com
> 08:29 14:34 SMTP(04C80002) [cox.com] in white list
>
>
> So, anyone have any idea how to enable HELO/ELHO when the MIS people at
the
> other place don't care their routing/dns is bad and this very powerful
tool
> cannot be used because of arrogance of the sender's MIS?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kami Razvan
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:24 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Verify Mail From Address v8.2
>
>
> Hi;
>
> We use it and it works amazingly well.  We add an entry in the header and
> evaluate the header later.
>
> Based on my experience no legit email has ever failed that test.
>
> Regards,
> Kami
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Biddle
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:53 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [IMail Forum] Verify Mail From Address v8.2
>
>
> Does anyone recommend enabling the Verify Mail From Address? Or Verify
> HELO/EHLO?
>
> Mike
>
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