Len,

Last I heard, Hotmail was using some proprietary form of FreeBSD as their
operating system. Unless things have changed recently, I don't think that
they are running Windows. Things may have changed since the last info I read
though. The system was designed well before they were purchased by
Microsoft.


William Van Hefner
System Administrator
TheDigest.Com/TelCompare.Com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Len Conrad
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Hotmail?
>
>
>
> >Is anybody else having a problem delivering mail to Hotmail and MSN
> >accounts?
>
> Yes, all the IMGate sites I've looked at have been having
> horrible problems
> all this week. Below is typical, showing deferrals running at 50% of
> deliveries and an "average delivery delay" with up to 5 hours
> delivery delay.
>
> Host/Domain Summary: Message Delivery (top 30)
>   sent cnt  bytes   defers   avg dly max dly host/domain
>   -------- -------  -------  ------- ------- -----------
>     2045   173558k       0     5.4 s    2.1 m  aol.com
>      963    53381k       1     6.4 s   29.0 m  comcast.net
>      425    19049k       2     7.3 s   24.5 m  yahoo.com
>      387    19161k     235    10.7 m    5.2 h  hotmail.com  <<<<<
>      271    23177k       0    17.4 s    5.9 m  earthlink.net
>      245     6948k     133    12.1 m    5.1 h  msn.com      <<<<<
>      196     8580k       0     3.8 s   53.0 s  juno.com
>
> Looking at the deferral reasons:
>
> "Lost connection with mx1.hotmail.com[65.54.252.99] while sending
> end of data"
>
> "Sender address rejected: unverified address: connect to
> msn.ca[207.68.172.246]: Operation timed out"
>
> >I just noticed a lot of mail not making it through, even a test
> mail to my
> >own hotmail account.
>
> IMGate normally waits 30 seconds after each SMTP command for a
> response. On
> the above site, I've lengthened the "SMTP-end-of-DATA-timeout" to 1000
> seconds (15+ minutes), and hotmail still times out after the DATA
> command.  Seems hotmail can't actually write the msg to disk and confirm
> back to sender.
>
> Note that AOL, a Unix-based shop with their system design and anti-spam
> policies under control, has no problem with their MXs, also for very-high
> volumes.
>
> Hotmail and msn MXs have been screwed up for days.  They chose
> wrong OS and
> SMTP service and tcp/ip stack? Even fantastically tweaked to try
> to work as
> MX?  Bad mailbox storage design?  bad anti-spam policy badly
> implemented?  too much money  and lawyers and too little competence?  all
> of the above?  :))
>
> Len
>
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