Backup MX is your safety net and overflow, it should only be used if the
primary is down or too busy, and you are correct that most MTA's are set to
retry at least a couple of times, I would venture most will periodically
retry for no less than 4 hours.   I run a small ISP without a backup MX (I
know I should, but downtime is rare) and a mail volume of around 300K
messages per day.  It is always a good Idea to have a fast recovery plan for
the server, without a backup MX, it's a little more important.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoLink.net

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grant Griffith -
IMail
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 7:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] anti-spam software, recommendations?

Just to make sure I am thinking correctly, if you do not have a backup MX
then the sending server will just try to resend the email later for how ever
many times it is set.  I am guessing most systems will at least try for a
few hours anyway and my servers are never down that long unless it would be
something very bad.

Basically I am running a backup MX on a Windows 2003 SMTP and using the
Vamsoft ORF program, but it rejects emails if it fails a single Spam test
and this is not working too well.  Our server had to be rebooted last night
and we have received a coupe of emails that were rejected by our backup mail
server already this morning and it was only down for about 10 minutes.  I
was thinking about canceling the backup for now until we get our second
IMail server running with the Declude/Sniffer checks and also maybe adding
in the IMGate for these two systems.

Any comments on if it might be OK to run without a backup MX for a month or
two?

Sincerely,
Grant Griffith
EI8HT LEGS Enhanced Web Management
http://www.getafreewebsite.com
877-483-3393

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Len Conrad
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 7:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] anti-spam software, recommendations?



>The gold standard seems to be Declude Standard version, but the price 
>tag
is
>too hefty for me to push through with the boss (he wants to stop the 
>spam, but doesn't want to spend the money on tools to stop it, go 
>figure.)
Declude
>Late doesn't offer multi-hop support which seems to be a good chunk of 
>the stuff we are seeing.


>  A bunch comes in through out ISPs mail server which is acting as 
>secondary.

Don't use a backup MX that cannot implement the same policies as the
primary MX.   You're paying the price of unfiltered spam, but how many
times has the backup MX been useful when your primary MX has been down?  So
you could probably make a big reduction in spam, immediately and for free,
by  1) removing the backup MX records from DNS and 2) telling the ISP to
stop relaying your mail through that machine.

Len


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