Who ever said that ServePath was USING spamcop in their environment?  They
simply received a notice FROM spamcop regarding a potential spammer on their
network (US, for bouncing spam).

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Panda
Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 4:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Convert this to English please?


My two cents. Your best defense is that ServePath is quite irresponsible
using SpamCop in a Production Environment if they haven't warned their users
about the pro and cons of using SpamCop. Bottom line, it affects legitimate
email from reaching the user.

Look at this
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml
SpamCop Blocklist Details & Description
This blocking list is somewhat experimental. This system and most other
spam-filtering systems should not be used in a production environment where
legitimate email must be delivered. Many end-users and administrators have
decided that risking the loss of legitimate email is worth the benefit of
blocking most spam. As a result, this list is now used widely and it's
reputation for blocking spam while reducing the risk of erroneous blocking
is growing.

However, it should be noted that SpamCop is aggressive and often errs on the
side of blocking mail - users should be warned and given information about
how their mail is filtered. Ideally they should have a choice of filtering
options. Many mailservers can operate with blacklists in a "tag only" mode,
which is preferable in many situations.

The description of the algorithm used for deciding whether to block a host
may be out of date, and is subject to change without notice.

There is no warranty associated with using this system. It is provided as
is.

-Luis Arango

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Funaro
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 7:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [IMail Forum] Convert this to English please?
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> We received this message from ServePath, notifying us that SpamCop had
> sent
> them a complaint about UCE coming from one of our mail server IP
> addresses.
>
> To me, this looks like someone complaining to spamcop about a joe-job
> bounce
> to our server - message came in to our server FROM a spoofed address, to a
> non-existing address on our server, bounced back to the spoofed from
> address
> who then reported it as spam(???) but I am not at all sure that I'm
> reading
> this correctly.  Can any of you super-experienced guru's give me a
> plain-english overview of what you think appears to have happened here, to
> confirm or dispute my assessment?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Marc
>
>
>
>
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> not
> guarantee its accuracy in any way.
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> Please remember to keep the subject line intact for all correspondence
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>
> Dear Marc Funaro:
>
> We have received a report regarding alleged violations of
> ServePath's Acceptable Use Policy
>
> http://www.servepath.com/AUP.htm
>
> from one of your IP addresses
>
> 69.59.165.93
>
> ServePath works closely with its customers to resolve situations as
> quickly
> as possible. We request you take whatever measures you deem appropriate
> which will ensure no further violations occur.
>
> We need you to take immediate steps to address the attached issues, and
> respond within 1 business day.
>
> ServePath values its relationships with its customers and will work with
> you
> in any way necessary to preserve that relationship.  However, ServePath is
> legally bound to enforce its AUP.  If it is confirmed that abuses are
> taking
> place, and we cannot elicit your cooperation in discontinuing the abuse,
> ServePath will be forced to take drastic actions, which could include
> termination of services.
>
> Once this issue has been resolved please reply to this message,  making
> sure
> the reply goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and keeping the subject the
> same. This will notify the ServePath Abuse Department that the situation
> has
> been resolved.
>
> Thank You,
>
> ServePath Anti-Abuse/UCE Team
> ServePath LLC
> 360 Spear Street, Suite 200 | San Francisco, CA 94105 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.ServePath.com
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>
>
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> From: "Florian Bodenseher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [SpamCop (69.59.165.93) id:1144616707]Undeliverable Mail
> Precedence: list
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> To: "Krieg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> subject: [block][sniffer] Offshore cbgqv Online
> phqrmacy..vic0din(Paracodin),Viqgra
> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:04:32 -0600
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