Scoot Listen to him. It doesn't fail the tests you say it does - period. Man take your Declude rhetoric and sell it on the Declude List. This is am Imail list in case you have forgotten.. Who is the list admin? I am sick of seeing Scott spout his crap everywhere. Does there need to be an amendment to the posting guidelines to sell 3rd part products elsewhere? Really! Scoot - drop it and fix your site. If you don't have the ability to then you lost to much control when you got bought out.
Travis -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] JPEG virus now in the wild >Dealing with you is like dealing with a hormone enriched teenager. No >logic, irrational, fighting about things that were not said, pretending >not to understand the issue, etc... OK, you've pushed me far enough. I'll try to do this with as much integrity as I can, without attacking you, while touching some of the key issues. --- Computerized Horizons has over 4 years experience in dealing with virus detection. Declude Virus is the leader in mailserver AV vulnerability detection. We have our own virus lab, a network of computers that are not directly connected to any other network, making it safe to "play" with viruses. The virus can't do any damage outside of the virus lab, yet the entire lab can easily be reconstructed. Declude Virus is the only third-party virus scanner that integrates with Ipswitch that is listed in the Ipswitch Knowledge Base. We have over 300 test files that we use to test Declude Virus. This includes an extraordinary number of variations of malformed E-mails that need to be caught. We wrote all our code, and do not rely on any third-party components (such as MIME decoders, TNEF decoders, DNS engines, etc.). Every second of every day, dozens of viruses are blocked by Declude Virus, and thousands of spam tests are run by Declude JunkMail. Declude products are scanning E-mail for 100,000s of domains. We have sold Declude Virus and Declude JunkMail to thousands of very satisfied customers, in dozens of countries around the world. We have sold Declude Virus and Declude JunkMail to major web hosting companies and ISPs, well known colleges and universities, and numerous well known government agencies. We have a business model that has proven to work: prices that are lower than almost all the competition, while high enough to ensure that our support and development costs are covered (along with a healthy profit). This model has been proven over more than 4 years, and there is no need to worry that one day we'll need to stop development or stop offering support because we can't afford it. We believe in never offering a "copycat" product. We've been involved in other industries where about 1/2 of the addons for a software product were nearly identical to others. Although there are lots of mailserver virus scanners, ours was unique in that it was created for IMail (which had no AV support at the time), and used a novel approach (using standard AV scanners). Declude Virus and Declude JunkMail were the first mailserver virus/spam scanners to offer a number of different features. Declude products have been mentioned in a number of national computer magazines. We've had several competitors buy ads on Google using "Declude" as a search term (in violation of Google's TOS). --- Those facts say a lot about our company and our product. You can go ahead and say things like "having to purchase a service agreement [for Declude Virus] to get the latest fix" (incorrect), "For an additional, hefty fee" (incorrect), "you do not verify data that is posted to your web site" (incorrect), "I simply do not agree with the claim that they are vulnerabilities" (an opinion, that it is OK for viruses to slip through undetected), "You obviousely knew what I was talking about" (incorrect), "Integrity and honesty" (implying that I am dishonest), "your insecurities started to role" (personal attack). If they are incorrect, however, I may correct them. As I have done in the past with others. You can say that our information is inaccurate, but unless you can say *how* it is inaccurate, we cannot do anything about it (as I am not aware of any inaccurate information, despite your repeated claims otherwise). Sorry to continue this thread, but you pushed me to the point where I had to go a bit deeper. Those facts about Declude are not meant to disparage you; you are free to post anything positive about your product. However, the point is that you're the new kid on the block, and you need to understand your position. Honestly, I'm guessing the only way that you can offer your product at the price you do is by cutting corners. That, however, is just my opinion (and is also subjective), so it could be wrong -- but you've pushed me to the point of saying my opinion. The good news, though, is that I'm going to start treating you as someone else on this forum who has a similar attitude. I'm going to do my best not to respond to anything further you say here, unless it is very important that it be corrected. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
