Yes, I saw that to. An administrator would have to apply permissions once
the user agrees to share their folder.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan E. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 6:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration tools exposed

Jill/James,

I downloaded a trial of WorkgroupShare just to see what it was like.  One
thing that I did *not* like was that there was no ability for the end-user
to share his or her own folders, or set permissions for people to access
them.  You could check a box in Outlook to allow it to be shared, but the
actual sharing could not be done there.  This all had to be done by an
administrator sitting at the server (sharing & setting permissions).  Is the
same true with the version that ships with ICS?

If so, won't it be an administrative nightmare when you get up near the
"unlimited users" range???  I couldn't imagine having to go to the server
console (or RDC) every time a customer called and said they wanted to share
another folder, or give someone access, or they got mad - take away their
access.

Thanks,
Bryan 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jill Jones
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration tools exposed

Hi James,

You are correct in your assessment that this edition of ICS wraps the
components of the suite by an installer.  In the coming releases of ICS, you
will see more and more integration of the different components.  At this
point there is some integration in the ability to import IMail users into
WorkgroupShare.  As for your assessment of the pricing - you are referring
to the crossgrade prices - which, do not have a IMail component, as any
customer that is eligible for the crossgrade already has IMail.  The value
we are providing then, comes from paying close to the retail price of
WorkgroupShare and getting IMail, IIM, AV and Service thrown in.

Best regards,
Jill

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James P. Bednarz
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Collaboration tools exposed

I downloaded the trial of ICS and as we all suspected it is simply an
install of Imail, IpswitchIM, and Workgroupshare (www.workgroupshare.com)

3 separate programs connected by an installer.

The 3 software programs are not tied together one bit by code and do not
rely on each other for anything. 

The other installers install Imail 8.13 and IM 2.01 individually

If you go to www.workgroupshare.com you can buy the collaboration software
component 250 user license for $2995.

Its almost as if Ipswitch is selling Imail, and IM as a cheap add on to this
workgroupshare software. 

All of this just makes you want to say What in tarnation is going on here?

The fall of Ipswitch could be as bad as the fall of the New York Yankees!



James P. Bednarz
Information Technology Manager
Kaestle Boos Associates, Inc.
Teamwork Rules!


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